Re: {Chrysler 300} Very strange— on plg wire ends , skipping
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Re: {Chrysler 300} Very strange— on plg wire ends , skipping



hi ,on this , 
generally you don't have  electrical problem here , it is mechanical 

also generally there are various designs of wire ends — the cheaper ones have a U shaped clip    over the wire end with a  a spike into center wire ( hate those ) So , the U is crimped onto wire but that means OD varies after with crimp aggression, may be loose in dist socket , or too tight to push in 
They often have a circumferential ridge shape or bulge at tip of U , a lame attempt to get some spring fit  action against the ID of the socket so it stays in , you can bend top / tip out a bit so it is retained better , but try not to open U very much , as if overdone , when you pull to get it out ,  wire can pull right out if U leaving the clip in the hole . Moderation / common sense is key , do not worry about contact ( very low current) just get it tight enough it stays in . it does  not need to be “ tight”  

Second type , much better , taylor wire sells bag of them on Amazon. 

Has a barrel shape , like two barrels split up the side , joined by a strip , brass  . upper barrel is a really solid 360 crimp often with sideways spikes  into wire ,—  lower barrel is spring action due to slot really snaps in , you can open or close to fit just  right —- not trying to both things with one size crimp dimension 

On those barrels  I often stick a # 22 bare solid wire or a reformed cut small paper  clip wire into center of wire  ( the inner part of clip is almost perfect ) before you do upper crimp and  position clip under that upper crimp , opposite the  slot . That helps  your ohm test accuracy. Cut end flush with top of barrel , without this, sometimes end is a poor connection ( ohmmeter) but still works.  

Actually in practice either design can work  fine , one is just a better design from get go .   
 
If attempting any real work ( you don’t  need to change , on yours, Gary,  just fix the fit) ; no weird stuff is  going on . Poor QC 

You MUST buy the crimp tool ( Taylor again) if you attack all this— it is  cheap . Impossible to do right with regular crimper , or plier , end result of that  is a flattened oval then wont go in  hole,— if  you try to reshape to fix that = wire is loose . Been there 60 years ago , hemi 392 ( beating 409’s)!) the ends gotta be right ( round) to fit into  long hemi  insulator.( I had found porcelain ones! from 50? great stuff back then) 

I glue them into insulator now on hemi  ( WS cement ) nothing worse than insulator pulls off leaving the clip on the plug .You pull on wire , off it comes leaving plug   clip down in hole  . Cant put socket on plug with a  wire on it . (=  invention : a plug socket with slot up the side?)!
Remove any steel helper  springs on plug ends  not needed( Taylor, cause trouble)  -/ they really lock onto plug = wire pulls right out of plug wire end before it releases off plug ( = a nice wasted day on a hemi).

Last ,very  relevant to  dist ends ,is story of poor running I had on  a 440 challenger , 1970 .
Had a skip the day I picked it up new,  (!) back to dealer 3x, no improvement , dealer mechanic a moron did not help , got into it with him  over this ( next time  bring your brain) .He told  me they changed  plugs , I pointed out they still  had orange paint  on them 
Then “ I must have put  the old ones back in by mistake ” with straight earnest  face .
Defines stealership . 

It Came and went ; one rainy night in dark really bad running on 6? cyl , stalling etc  opened hood in dark ,on side of road . Thought plug wire fell off 
Sparks were jumping out from UNDER   the rubber cap on coil tower to the two 12 v nuts(!!! ) YOW 
Hard to believe  my eyes , mini lightning strikes  , but this is real .
Wiped / cleaned tower , pushed  rubber on hard ran perfect 
At home I seated  it all the way in ,with tiny screw driver to push on brass   ( was not in all the way ) and gooped  up tower and rubber cup with silicone grease , never again !! 
Happens on B blocks .  Any coil I imagine 

Big heads up !   clean those   towers of oily residue, seat end grease the cap  against humidity 



   

On Sep 13, 2025, at 2:16 AM, Gary Gettleman <gary.gettleman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Carl

     Thank you for your response on the distributor cap and plug wires strange issue.

Will do as suggested and let you know the outcome.

Gary Gettleman 




On Fri, Sep 12, 2025, 11:50 AM Carl Bilter <cbilter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Maybe trapped air under the boots at the cap?  Heat expands the air and lifts the wire from the cap, along with vibration maybe.  Or terminal not seated in the cap.   1)  make sure the wire terminal fits fairly snugly in the cap, and actually seats  2) squeeze the boot as you insert the wire into the cap to release any trapped air under the boot.  

Carl B.  


------ Original Message ------
From "Gary Gettleman" <gary.gettleman@xxxxxxxxx>
To "Chrysler 300 Club International" <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date 9/12/2025 1:40:22 PM
Subject {Chrysler 300} Very strange

To all the good folks in letter car land.

Has anyone encountered plug wires backing out of distributor cap.

The car starts out running quite well on all 8 after maybe 10-15 minutes not soo good.

First time it happened I thought maybe plug wires were problem.

Had no tools and was ready to call AAA just before I dialed the # i decided to check the distributor wires.

Believe I found 4 that had lost contact.

Seated the wires and presto change-o the engine fired up and ran great.

Doesn’t happen every time, but enough to make me wonder what could be causing this strange and very odd problem with the C.

Will appreciate any and all thoughts or suggestions.

 Respectfully 

   gary gettleman 
   Santa Cruz, Ca






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