Re: {Chrysler 300} 64 K accelerator pump question
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Re: {Chrysler 300} 64 K accelerator pump question



right on! 

On Jul 20, 2026, at 2:17 PM, don petty <donlpetty2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


My cars sit all summer  before starting I squirt a little ATF around pump shaft and let sit hour before moving caRb. Prevents pump curling and pre lubes pump works every time

On Mon, Jul 20, 2026, 11:01 AM John Grady <jkg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
To your point James, the most common issue with the AFB pumps in my experience  is the check valve in the space under the two jets . it can stick closed or almost closed  ,it corrodes , as does  its cast  surroundings --- then does not slide freely , especially in stored cars. It was fitted too tight by design error  !!!There are multiple styles , some brass , some rubber tip etc  To find that , was a real bear , as gas still  comes out of jet, -- just not enough  . --- other things get blamed , like the pump  .adjustments etc etc 

 Combine that with your explanation of nozzle jet size  = bog , backfire , no start etc  , with a perfect pump 

The pump is not designed , imho,  to seal perfectly to sides of well  , scratches just do  not matter, look at how the center is joined  ( often an unsealed fit on original parts, ) can pass gas too . 
It just does not matter , most goes out jets, the psi is set by the spring -- leak or not at well --minor  scratches in well mean nothing .Expansion spring in a circle with leather pushed it out wards 
The original leather is very good if oiled / soaked in oil at assembly 
But drys up in stored car , can be oiled again , not a cool new kit with nice color rubber pump . 
New rubber / plastic ones are marginal get scrapes  / cuts on rubber lip , leather kind of self fixes 

Just me ,no self proclaimed carb expert , but 56 years of hard knocks on AFB 

I like WCFB more  now -- with the cast iron bottom , --- with aluminum, the  bottom shafts get worn loose , leak air , unstable idle/ idle mix . You can buy reamer and bushings for 40$ to fix that, save 500 rebuild .
Floats on AFB are often mangled by prior attacks by the golden screw driver expert bending the float arms. , not all at same exact height BEFORE setting shut off height , then one side of float leads the other= mayhem . 

Best today imho is AVS , terrific carb very accurate out of box  due to emissions driving machining  tolerances on carbs  , ever better uniformity  / accuracy 

Have personally seen dyno test where zero adjustments were needed, golden screwdriver just  makes it worse. .... perfect real time measured A/F ratio across all conditions , --- with just one of them , 750cfm  600 HP on 500" 460 Ford / Lincoln  . ( can you say 413, 440 ?) 

Let chevy or Ford guys try to match  that with weeks   of fooling with Holley " strip kit"  , once you do , you get 10 mpg .    

Thermo quad good  too, but less support  , odd huge secondary holes .Like GM 
Edelbrock sells AVS now .. 
Back to EE 
 
On Jul 20, 2026, at 8:52 AM, 'James Douglas' via Chrysler 300 Club International <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



Allen, the accelerator pump exits through the jets.  The diameter of the jets sets the rate of flow of the jet. A larger well would mean a longer squirt, not a larger squirt.

 

I think I have is write in my head, but these days who knows…

 

I will go look when I am back up in Winters as I have a spare carb up there.

 

An interesting dilemma.

 

James

 

From: 'ALLAN POZDOL' via Chrysler 300 Club International <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2026 13:37
To: chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: {Chrysler 300} 64 K accelerator pump question

 

I have been going in circles on a replacement accelerator pump configuration. My carb was rebuilt with a 3/4" but shorter pump. Aluminum has worn into the leather after a short time, so i thought I had to replace with a 11/16".

 

The manual and the Carter product pages state that the 3614S takes an 11/16" pump. The well measures 47/64". As does a 3615S for an Imperial and New Yorker. 

 

I now find this little snippet online:

 

Why Your 3614S Measures 3/4" (Instead of 11/16")

Carter's official technical charts for the 3614S blueprints list an 11/16" pump cup, but you are holding a 3/4" bore in your hands for one of two highly common reasons: [1, 2]

  1. Mid-Year Production or Heavy-Duty Casting Changes: Carter frequently updated castings mid-run or shared cast bodies across different assembly lines. Heavy-duty applications (like the high-performance Chrysler 383/413/426 Wedge big blocks that the 3614S belonged to) were routinely upgraded to the larger 3/4" accelerator well to dump more fuel and eliminate the off-the-line flat spot inherent to moving massive Mopar B/RB-body cars.
  2. A Past Machining Rebuild (Sleeving/Boring): It was incredibly common for commercial rebuilders in the 1970s and 1980s to clean up pitted, corroded aluminum Carter wells by boring them out exactly 1/16" oversized to accept the larger 3/4" plunger cup.

Has anyone else run into this issue? Both bores and scored up a bit, so I don't think they were machined any larger in the past.

 

Allan

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