To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Chrysler300-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 5 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Tire Math From: "RON KURTZ" <Mark268@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 2. RE: Tire Math From: George McKovich <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 3. Re: Tire Math From: dan300f@xxxxxxx 4. Re: Tire Math From: News4ge@xxxxxxx 5. Re: Tire Math From: dan300f@xxxxxxx ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 20:03:47 -0800 From: "RON KURTZ" <Mark268@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Tire Math Hello, everyone: I recall someone had a link to a site that did tire size comparisons. I saw this on the list server about a year ago. It's a real handy tool. Maybe they can share it with us once again. According to my tables, 205/75R14s are very close to G78x14s. You can go to a 215/70R14 without having too much effect on the speedometer (but watch turning clearance in the front wheel wells). 14x6 rim sizes are typically recommended for 205s and 14x6.5 sizes are recommended for 215s for optimum tire handling performance. However, on Chrysler stock rims, I believe a 14x6.5 has a different bolt pattern than the 14x6s. If you want to use the 14x6.5 rims, be sure to check the bolt pattern (The distance between every other hole on the rim.) It's been a while since I played with this. Maybe someone out there would like to correct or add to this. Best regards, Ron Kurtz E#292 A very happy holiday to all! ----- Original Message ----- From: Terry & Emily Lynch <terrytown@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: 62-65 Mopar List <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>; 300 List Posts <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:21 PM Subject: [Chrysler300] Tire Math > Hi All, > > It's time for a new set of tires on my '64 300 Sport. The service manual says that the wheels are 14x6K and that they take a 8.00-14 size tire. But I noticed that the same year New Yorker uses the same wheel (14x6K) and takes a 8.50-14 tire. What's the difference? The car currently has G78-14 bias ply tires on it from the previous owner. I don't have a clue if those are the right size. I called some local tire stores and they couldn't agree on weather I needed a 215/75R14 or a 225/75R14. What's the difference there? I guess I'm just 'under-educated' when it comes to tires and sizes. > > I guess the other question that I'm looking for opinions on is if I should stay with bias ply tires for originality or use radial ones for better ride. I assume the radials handle better and are safer. Is that the case? I do drive the car a bit, it's more of a driver than a show car. Is there any drawback to radials, other than not being bone stock? > > Thanks for your advise & help, > > Terry Lynch > '64 300 Sport convertible > St. Petersburg, FL (Still waiting for the temps to get out of the 80's so the holiday spirit will hit!) > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > To send a message to this group, send an email to: > Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > Chrysler300-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 19:09:43 -0700 From: George McKovich <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: RE: Tire Math Ron and 300 Group.... I think this may be the web page you were referring to: http://secret-secret.com/turbo/DIY/tirecalc/turbotire.html Good luck, George ---------- From: RON KURTZ Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 9:03 PM To: 62-65 Mopar List; 300 List Posts; Terry & Emily Lynch Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Tire Math Hello, everyone: I recall someone had a link to a site that did tire size comparisons. I saw this on the list server about a year ago. It's a real handy tool. Maybe they can share it with us once again. According to my tables, 205/75R14s are very close to G78x14s. You can go to a 215/70R14 without having too much effect on the speedometer (but watch turning clearance in the front wheel wells). 14x6 rim sizes are typically recommended for 205s and 14x6.5 sizes are recommended for 215s for optimum tire handling performance. However, on Chrysler stock rims, I believe a 14x6.5 has a different bolt pattern than the 14x6s. If you want to use the 14x6.5 rims, be sure to check the bolt pattern (The distance between every other hole on the rim.) It's been a while since I played with this. Maybe someone out there would like to correct or add to this. Best regards, Ron Kurtz E#292 A very happy holiday to all! ----- Original Message ----- From: Terry & Emily Lynch <terrytown@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: 62-65 Mopar List <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>; 300 List Posts <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:21 PM Subject: [Chrysler300] Tire Math > Hi All, > > It's time for a new set of tires on my '64 300 Sport. The service manual says that the wheels are 14x6K and that they take a 8.00-14 size tire. But I noticed that the same year New Yorker uses the same wheel (14x6K) and takes a 8.50-14 tire. What's the difference? The car currently has G78-14 bias ply tires on it from the previous owner. I don't have a clue if those are the right size. I called some local tire stores and they couldn't agree on weather I needed a 215/75R14 or a 225/75R14. What's the difference there? I guess I'm just 'under-educated' when it comes to tires and sizes. > > I guess the other question that I'm looking for opinions on is if I should stay with bias ply tires for originality or use radial ones for better ride. I assume the radials handle better and are safer. Is that the case? I do drive the car a bit, it's more of a driver than a show car. Is there any drawback to radials, other than not being bone stock? > > Thanks for your advise & help, > > Terry Lynch > '64 300 Sport convertible > St. Petersburg, FL (Still waiting for the temps to get out of the 80's so the holiday spirit will hit!) > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > To send a message to this group, send an email to: > Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > Chrysler300-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Chrysler300-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 21:30:37 EST From: dan300f@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Tire Math Hi all: The formula for calculating the diameter of a radial tire is as follows: For example, a 235/75R15 Where: 235 equals the tire width in millimeters 75 is the height of the sidewall as a percentage of tire width 15 is the diameter of the rim in inches First, converting tire width to inches: 235 mm divided by 25.4 mm/in. = 9.25 in. Then multiply 9.25 in. by .75 (the 75 in the tire size) = 6.94 in. (This is the sidewall height) Then multiply this number by 2 (the tire sidewall height times 2) = 13.88 in. Add in the diameter of the rim, 15 in. + 13.88 = 28.88 in. (the diameter of the tire.) Have fun. Dan Reitz Northridge, CA [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 22:05:59 EST From: News4ge@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Tire Math Radials seem to ride lower than bias ply. They always look like they're under-inflated. Does this have an effect on car height? Should it be factored in when figuring what size in today's terms would match an old 7.60/15 or an 8.50/14, etc.? Would it affect the speedometer, or do radials "grow" at highway speeds, like the slicks on a top fueler? Dumb questions? George Clineman ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 22:14:46 EST From: dan300f@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Tire Math For what it is worth concerning bias vs radials: I replaced my 900x14 bias plys with 235/75R15 radials when I went to disk brakes on my F. I selected the 235's because the math showed them to be virtually the same diameter as the bias ply's. On a trip to Phoenix last January, I measured my odometer reading for a 10 mile stretch of mile markers. The reading was within 1% of the reading I got on the same stretch the previous year with the bias plys. Dan Reitz Northridge, CA [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Your use of Yahoo! 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