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There are 15 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Jack Pads.
From: Marshall Larson <yelof@xxxxxxxx>
2. Roof
From: "Rickard Larsson" <rickard.cecilia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
3. fuel pump eccentric - getting desperate.
From: "PaddyCaddy ." <paddycaddy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
4. Roof
From: "Rickard Larsson" <rickard.cecilia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
5. Peformance tires
From: John Hertog <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
6. Re: Peformance tires
From: paulholm <paulholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
7. Re: Brake Shoe Springs
From: "The Valentines" <300g@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
8. Re: Brake Shoe Springs
From: paulholm <paulholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
9. right hand exhaust on 300C Convertible
From: "David Zakarian" <arshog@xxxxxxxxx>
10. warning - dishonest vendor
From: John Hertog <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
11. Re: warning - dishonest vendor
From: "Larry Carrel" <300fan@xxxxxxxxxx>
12. Re: Torqueflite question
From: Gary Nelson <Gary@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
13. Re: fuel pump eccentric - getting desperate.
From: Gary Nelson <Gary@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
14. Re: warning - dishonest vendor
From: "John L. Chesnutt" <chesnutt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
15. 300J in Portland, OR
From: "langendorfer" <langendorfer@xxxxxxxxx>
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 11:17:03 -0600
From: Marshall Larson <yelof@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Jack Pads.
Sometime back someone asked about hard plastic or rubber pads for jacks.
I just ran across my catalog from Protech Products. They have pads for
jacks, jack stands, vise, pliers, hammers, and maybe more. They also
have some car accessaries on tools. Their # is 800-392-1242. They are
located at 405 South Victory Blvd., #E Burbank, CA 91502
Marshall
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 18:01:48 +0100
From: "Rickard Larsson" <rickard.cecilia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Roof
Hello all of you!
I wonder if there is anyone of you that know if there some other cars who has the same roof as the Chrysler 300E 1959. Someone told me that the Adventure -58 has the same roof.
I wonder because i need one for my 300E.
Thanks
Rickard Larsson
Sweden
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 15:56:51 -0500
From: "PaddyCaddy ." <paddycaddy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: fuel pump eccentric - getting desperate.
Everything - including NOS pistons - has been located for the rebuild om the
1954 DeSoto 276 Hemi engine and powerflight trans. that will soon reside in
one of the C300's (the other has the original 331).
Everything EXCEPT the $@%#$ fuel pump eccentric mounted to the front of the
cam that operates the fuel pump arm. The old one is in 3 pieces, and I
have pictures of it if that helps.
This engine is scheduled to go back together next week, but cannot until I
find this one remaining part for the rebuild.
Any help whatsoever I could get in locating one - or at least getting the
interchange across the Chrysler, Dodge, Plymouth, DeSoto line before I head
to the junkyard - would be greatly appreciated.
thanks, Sean.
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 23:08:04 +0100
From: "Rickard Larsson" <rickard.cecilia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Roof
It wasen´t my meaning to cut up an Adventure -59 but there is a guy in northern Sweden who has convert a coupe to an convertible and he has saved the roof.
I have talked to a guy this evening and he have a roof for $350 from a -59 Saratoga only 450 km from my home so i think that ihave an solution for my problem.
Thank you everyone.
Rickard Larsson
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 18:46:08 -0500
From: John Hertog <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Peformance tires
Hi to all ,
Some of you might remember my preference for Goodyear Eagle GT+4's , in P235/70R15 size. These are serious V-rated tires with 1" whitewall that match the performance characteristics of our Brutes, as far as I am concerned. They are also the ONLY whitewall performance tire on today's market manufactured in that size. Every other performance tire I could find is smaller - and blackwall. These Eagle GT+4's were manufactured for Rolls Royce and Bentley Turbo performance sedans - big cars that weigh at least as much as our 300's and go at least as fast.
Well, the sad news is that they are discontinued. Seems all modern cars now have 16", 17", 21" etc. diameter rims and there is no longer a need for these 15" performance tires, so Goodyear pulled the plug on them, as I found out when I tried to order another set !
I contacted Goodyear directly and was able to find out that there is still some existing stock scattered throughout the country - and managed to buy 10 tires for myself and another 5 for another Club member ... found them in Wisconsin and grabbed the lot. I wish I could afford to buy a few more sets, but at $100 +/- a tire plus shipping, it gets expensive !
So - all this to say - if you want to purchase some of these exceptional tires, DO IT NOW ! There will never be anything comparable on the market again because 15" tires are out ... the ONLY way to find some is to contact Goodyear Tire Customer Support ( consumer_relations@xxxxxxxxxxxx ) and ask them to track down some of these tires for you .
They refer to them as P235/70R15 Eagle GT+4 Narrow White - PC# 104-807-177 .
Happy hunting
John
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 19:37:19 -0500
From: paulholm <paulholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Peformance tires
John Hertog wrote:
> Hi to all ,
> Some of you might remember my preference for Goodyear Eagle GT+4's , in P235/70R15 size. These are serious V-rated tires with 1" whitewall that match the performance characteristics of our Brutes, as far as I am concerned. They are also the ONLY whitewall performance tire on today's market manufactured in that size. Every other performance tire I could find is smaller - and blackwall. These Eagle GT+4's were manufactured for Rolls Royce and Bentley Turbo performance sedans - big cars that weigh at least as much as our 300's and go at least as fast.
>
> Well, the sad news is that they are discontinued. Seems all modern cars now have 16", 17", 21" etc. diameter rims and there is no longer a need for these 15" performance tires, so Goodyear pulled the plug on them, as I found out when I tried to order another set !
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> Happy hunting
> John
These tires in 205/60R15 were stock on our LeBaron GT vert.
NICE tires, took a lot of driving, cornered great, good bad weather
traction. If they wern't almost 130 each when it came time to replace
them I would have bought them in a snap. The closest we came were
some Yokohamas. This MIGHT be a second choice if you are looking.
DITTO, grab them when you can if they are discontinued.
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Paul Holmgren
Hoosier Corps #33, L-6
2 57 300-C's in Indy
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 19:46:04 -0500
From: "The Valentines" <300g@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Brake Shoe Springs
Now that I am more awake I just did another part number search for the heavy
duty springs and could find none. That part number is 2266881. This is not
to say that nobody has the heavy duty springs.
I found this spring info in "Service Reference Book - Session No. 161".
NEW RETURN SPRINGS
A new, heavier-load brake shoe return spring, Part Number 2266881, is
available in service for installation on 12-inch-diameter front and rear
brakes. The wire diameter is slightly larger than on the former spring.
These new springs require a pull of 55-65 pounds on the shoe end to start
the shoe moving. This compares with a 45-55 pound pull on the old springs.
The new springs are painted a bright red for easy identification. The old
springs were dark red.
The above paragraph was re-typed word for word for the above mentioned book.
I hope that this will be of some help.
Charlie Valentine, G
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Jasinski" <rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Chrysler 300 Email Network" <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:34 PM
Subject: [Chrysler300] Brake Shoe Springs
> Herman Meiners' message struck a chord with me.
>
> In the past, the rear drums in my G have scraped against the springs and
wore a noticeable amount of metal away on the side of the spring. When I
did the brakes 3 years ago, I checked and adjusted the axle shaft end play,
but didn't have a source for new springs, so I put the old ones back in
place. At this point I think the rubbing problem is gone as haven't heard
the tell-tale squeak as I navigate cloverleaf's. I sure would like to get
new replacements though. Can anyone recommend a source for new brake
springs?
>
> Bob J
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 20:01:13 -0500
From: paulholm <paulholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Brake Shoe Springs
The Valentines wrote:
> Now that I am more awake I just did another part number search
> for the heavy duty springs and could find none. That part number
> is 2266881. This is not to say that nobody has the heavy duty
> springs.
> I found this spring info in "Service Reference Book - Session No.
> 161".
> NEW RETURN SPRINGS
> A new, heavier-load brake shoe return spring, Part Number 2266881,
> is available in service for installation on 12-inch-diameter front
> and rear brakes. The wire diameter is slightly larger than on the
> former spring.
> These new springs require a pull of 55-65 pounds on the shoe end to
> start the shoe moving. This compares with a 45-55 pound pull on the
> old springs.
> The new springs are painted a bright red for easy identification.
> The old springs were dark red.
>
> The above paragraph was re-typed word for word for the above
> mentioned book.
> I hope that this will be of some help.
> Charlie Valentine, G
Sounds Like A Club Store Project ??
--
Paul Holmgren
Hoosier Corps #33, L-6
2 57 300-C's in Indy
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 17:39:30 -0800
From: "David Zakarian" <arshog@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: right hand exhaust on 300C Convertible
Question: does the pipe, coming off the header pipe that snakes through the X-frame, install without taking anything off? This is the pipe that goes through the holes in the frame and around the torsion bar? This is assuming it is bent properly. My first attempt need the trans. fill tube and the rear cross member(holding up the trans.) removed. After which I find that it was bent incorrectly and didn't fit anyway.
Zak
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 00:34:09 -0500
From: John Hertog <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: warning - dishonest vendor
This info passed on to me by a Club member who would prefer to remain
anonymous..
John
....
I just wanted to advise the membership of an individual selling
Chrysler parts from the state of Oregon. Back in January I sent $325 and
was
told I'd have my parts in 3-4 days. Not only do I have no parts but multiple
telephone calls have not been returned. On occasion his wife has picked up
the phone and only "takes messages" and tells me I should "take it up with
Gary".
This person has yet to have the courtesy to return a call even though
I
allow a week between calls so as not to "be a pest" Mrs Groff has even hung
up the phone rather than discuss the situation. One conversation with him a
month ago led me to believe that he would take care of the required
paperwork
with the shipper so that I could get a refund for the lost item. I have not
heard from him since and he again has not returned several phone calls.
I would highly recommend C.O.D as method of payment for any club
member who may do business with him in the future. His name and contact
information are as follows:
Gary Groff
11565 SE 222 Drive
Boring, OR 97009
(503) 658-5979
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 21:44:49 -0800
From: "Larry Carrel" <300fan@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: warning - dishonest vendor
Is this selling on ebay? If so, it would be a good idea to pass along the
name he goes by there.
Larry carrel
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hertog" <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Chrysler 300 Club Listverver" <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 9:34 PM
Subject: [Chrysler300] warning - dishonest vendor
> This info passed on to me by a Club member who would prefer to remain
> anonymous..
> John
>
> ....
>
> I just wanted to advise the membership of an individual selling
> Chrysler parts from the state of Oregon. Back in January I sent $325 and
> was
> told I'd have my parts in 3-4 days. Not only do I have no parts but
multiple
> telephone calls have not been returned. On occasion his wife has picked
up
> the phone and only "takes messages" and tells me I should "take it up with
> Gary".
>
> This person has yet to have the courtesy to return a call even
though
> I
> allow a week between calls so as not to "be a pest" Mrs Groff has even
hung
> up the phone rather than discuss the situation. One conversation with him
a
> month ago led me to believe that he would take care of the required
> paperwork
> with the shipper so that I could get a refund for the lost item. I have
not
> heard from him since and he again has not returned several phone calls.
>
> I would highly recommend C.O.D as method of payment for any club
> member who may do business with him in the future. His name and contact
> information are as follows:
>
> Gary Groff
> 11565 SE 222 Drive
> Boring, OR 97009
> (503) 658-5979
>
>
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 21:47:16 -0800
From: Gary Nelson <Gary@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Torqueflite question
Don V.
Are you possibly thinking of foot pounds when you say 72 inch pounds is way
more than finger tight?
I rebuild Torque Flites and have used a inch pound torque wrench on bands.
It is not much pressure. When adjusting a band all you are doing when tighten
is taking out the slack. Then when you back off the 2 5/8 turns,( or
whatever is
prescribed for a particular model) provides the proper free play when the
band is
disengaged from the clutch retainer hub.
I would certainly agree if you have a INCH pound torque wrench, buy all
means use it.
My 2 cents.
Gary
At 08:37 AM 3/21/2002 -0500, Don Verity wrote:
>Hi All,
> Gary raised some good points. However no-one has mentioned the throttle
>lever adjustment, which everyone calls the "kickdown rod" This rod controls
>throttle pressure in the trans. If it's improperly adjusted or missing, it
>will cause all kinds of problems including rough engagement. Even if it's
>adjusted properly, if the idle speed is to high, it will act on this rod
>raising the pressure in the trans and causing the same thing. Also, the
>proper way to adjust bands is with an inch pound torque wrench. Everyone's
>"finger tight" is different. The spec is for 72 inch pounds, which is a good
>deal more than finger tight. Anyone who is not an experienced transmission
>mechanic should follow the repair manual to the letter or have a
>professional do it.
>300ly,
> Don
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Gary Nelson <Gary@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: Jonathan Sacks <jwsacks@xxxxxxxxx>; Chrysler 300 Email Network
><Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 1:13 AM
>Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Torqueflite question
>
>
> > Hi Jonathan and all.
> >
> > You can check the trans mount. Jack up the trans by the
> > tail shaft housing just behind the mount. If the car starts to
> > raise and the rubber mount does not separate the mount
> > should be ok. Don't jack up much you may damage it.
> > If it is bad it will separate with a small amount lift.
> >
> > a) I am sure you aware of idle.
> >
> > b) High pressure I doubt. Pressure adjusting screw
> > would have to be turned in against spring pressure.
> > Low pressure, possible due to wear or failure of rubber
> > and steel seal rings. You can test or have tested for
> > correct pressure.
> > c) Band adjustment is not rocket science. Look in manual
> > it will show where low reverse band adjuster is. Loosen
> > lock nut and mark and count the turns as you tighten the
> > adj. bolt. This is in case you want to return it back to where it was.
> > With out a inch pound torque wrench use a end wrench,
> > I belive that is 7/16". Pull on the end of wrench with one finger
> > until you fell the pressure on your finger. Now you need to back
> > off adj. bolt 2 1/2 to 3 turns. Check manual for your car.
> > d thru g. Pull the trans and rebuild it.
> >
> > Hope that helps
> >
> > Gary, The Parts Doc
> >
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 21:53:22 -0800
From: Gary Nelson <Gary@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: fuel pump eccentric - getting desperate.
Sean
If you get real desperate send me the three pieces and I should be able to
machine
one in my shop and then heat treat it.
Gary, The Parts Doc
At 03:56 PM 3/21/2002 -0500, PaddyCaddy . wrote:
>Everything - including NOS pistons - has been located for the rebuild om the
>1954 DeSoto 276 Hemi engine and powerflight trans. that will soon reside in
>one of the C300's (the other has the original 331).
>
>Everything EXCEPT the $@%#$ fuel pump eccentric mounted to the front of the
>cam that operates the fuel pump arm. The old one is in 3 pieces, and I
>have pictures of it if that helps.
>
>This engine is scheduled to go back together next week, but cannot until I
>find this one remaining part for the rebuild.
>
>Any help whatsoever I could get in locating one - or at least getting the
>interchange across the Chrysler, Dodge, Plymouth, DeSoto line before I head
>to the junkyard - would be greatly appreciated.
>
>thanks, Sean.
>
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 22:08:55 -0800
From: "John L. Chesnutt" <chesnutt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: warning - dishonest vendor
Hi,
I have known Gary Groff of Boring , Oregon for 20 years or more. He owns the
300B Derham car. I known him as a very honest individual and I am sure that
there must be some mistake in dealing with him. He is a retired Oregon Air
Force National Guardsman and also worked full time for the National Guard
repairing jet engines.
If I can be of help to the person who has a complaint, I will be happy to
call Gary and try to fix the problem.
On August 1, 1999, we had a discussion about his car on this list server.
John & Arlys Chesnutt, Portland, OR.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hertog" <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Chrysler 300 Club Listverver" <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 9:34 PM
Subject: [Chrysler300] warning - dishonest vendor
> This info passed on to me by a Club member who would prefer to remain
> anonymous..
> John
>
> ....
>
> I just wanted to advise the membership of an individual selling
> Chrysler parts from the state of Oregon. Back in January I sent $325 and
> was
> told I'd have my parts in 3-4 days. Not only do I have no parts but
multiple
> telephone calls have not been returned. On occasion his wife has picked
up
> the phone and only "takes messages" and tells me I should "take it up with
> Gary".
>
> This person has yet to have the courtesy to return a call even
though
> I
> allow a week between calls so as not to "be a pest" Mrs Groff has even
hung
> up the phone rather than discuss the situation. One conversation with him
a
> month ago led me to believe that he would take care of the required
> paperwork
> with the shipper so that I could get a refund for the lost item. I have
not
> heard from him since and he again has not returned several phone calls.
>
> I would highly recommend C.O.D as method of payment for any club
> member who may do business with him in the future. His name and contact
> information are as follows:
>
> Gary Groff
> 11565 SE 222 Drive
> Boring, OR 97009
> (503) 658-5979
>
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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 08:33:33 -0500
From: "langendorfer" <langendorfer@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: 300J in Portland, OR
Folks::
We were just in the Portland, OR area this week looking at a prospective
college and at the airport on the way home, I saw the classifieds section
of a local paper on a chair in the gate area. Naturally nosy, I checked the
ads and there was a 300J for sale! I immediately called, but the car had
been sold. The owner said it was "an iridescent salmon" color (probably
claret) and it had a 4 barrel on the original engine but the rams and carbs
had gone w/ the car. It had belonged to this person's father and I did not
get any add'l info (i.e. VIN) as he seemed in a hurry. He did say it had
about 63K miles on it and could have used a tuneup but was otherwise in good
shape. I wasn't sure if anyone in the club in the Portland area had seen it
(I think the paper was the "Oregonian") or called on it or was familiar w/
it (I am looking for a clean J).
Thanks,
Keith
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