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Topics in this digest:
1. Re: MetalCrafters - reply
From: ronbo97@xxxxxxxxx
2. RE: gassy vinyls
From: "jennifer allyn" <gearhead.girl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
3. Re: Automobile Trailer
From: "Warren R Anderson" <wranderson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
4. RE: gassy vinyls
From: Mark Souders <souders@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
5. Windshield Rubber
From: Mark Souders <souders@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
6. Handy Hint for a Rubber Lubricant
From: "JOHN MC ADAMS" <clafong@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
7. Slightly off Topic
From: RONVE@xxxxxxx
8. Re: MetalCrafters - reply
From: "MGalassi" <C300lover@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 17:14:30 +0000
From: ronbo97@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: MetalCrafters - reply
IMHO, based on what we know now, we should just 'cool our heels' for the next
4 - 6 weeks and see what happens. Maybe pick this up towards the end of
January if we haven't heard anything.
Ron
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 10:44:36 -0800
From: "jennifer allyn" <gearhead.girl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: gassy vinyls
I was a stuffed toy girl...never liked dolls. Think the vinyl smell is
ghastly. Thank god, our brutes have leather. Though, I will say that
the repro vinyl in my station wagon has had none of the described
problems.
Jennifer
-----Original Message-----
From: Ray Jones [mailto:hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 10:47 AM
To: Marshall Larson; chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] gassy vinyls
Maybe some of the guys will agree!
Ray
> From: Marshall Larson <yelof@xxxxxxxx>
> Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 10:14:05 -0600
> To: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] gassy vinyls
>
> You guys are all wrong about "stinky" vinyl! There's no better smell
in
> the whole world than a brand new doll! Right, Girls? :)
>
> Sue Larson
>
> On Fri, 06 Dec 2002 23:07:23 -0600 Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> writes:
>> Jeff and all;
>> A new car with a leather or cloth interior has a wonderful smell,
>> vinyl
>> Stinks.
>> Ray Jones
>>
>>> From: mr-320@xxxxxxxxx
>>> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 07:26:38 -0700 (MST)
>>> To: groveautomotive@xxxxxx (Dave Grove Grove Automotive)
>>> Cc: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, paul_martin78ca@xxxxxxxx (Paul
>> Martin)
>>> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] gassy vinyls
>>>
>>> its amazing, here evryone is busy complaining about the NEW
>>> CAR smell..
>>>
>>> JEFF
>>> tucson az.
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 12:20:22 -0700
From: "Warren R Anderson" <wranderson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Automobile Trailer
Trailer width is important. Allowable down the road is 8 1/2' maximum
outside dimension. You will encounter serious problems with narrower
trailers.
I would not give up one foot of the 20' bed length of my trailer.
In my world, the beaver tail is out. They are too low in the rear and are a
drag hazard. I opt for longer ramps and max length flat useable bed.
7000 lbs GVW would do the job but with no margin. The trailers I have seen
with this rating normally have 3.5K axles and 10 X 2 1/4 brakes. The 5K
axles can have 12 X 2 brakes which are much better. Hydraulic surge brakes
are normally available and negate the electric requirements of electric
trailer brakes. Either type will work and each has it's deficiencies.
Suggest Teconsha Voyager as controller for electric brakes.
Tandem axle trailers come with two different types of suspension. The
torsion axle setup is normally considered to be the premium combination.
Leaf springs and equalizer links are the other type. Be very mindful that
the torsion axle design is very much dependant on the trailer towing level
as there is no load transfer equalization built in as there is with the leaf
setup. If a trailer stays with one tow vehicle and it is set up properly the
torsion axles are fine. Shocks are nice.
This type of trailer and load needs a stout tow vehicle. Minimum equipment
should be an 8K GVW rated pickup and a load distributing hitch. I use the
Reese product with cam locking sway control and that setup is stable. Hitch
ball should be 2 5/16" dia. for anything over 5K GVW.
I tarp my 8K Warn electric winch (which single line has loaded everything I
have needed to load). It is removable (2" square receiver hitch). There are
aluminum boxes available built to mount on the trailer tongue and house a
winch and tie down straps and all; really neat. Northern Tool and Equipment
is a source.
HTH
Warren Anderson
Sedona,AZ
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 14:45:01 -0500
From: Mark Souders <souders@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: gassy vinyls
Stinky dolls do nothing for me !!!!!!!!!
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ray Jones [SMTP:hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 1:47 PM
> To: Marshall Larson; chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] gassy vinyls
>
> Maybe some of the guys will agree!
> Ray
>
> > From: Marshall Larson <yelof@xxxxxxxx>
> > Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 10:14:05 -0600
> > To: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] gassy vinyls
> >
> > You guys are all wrong about "stinky" vinyl! There's no better smell in
> > the whole world than a brand new doll! Right, Girls? :)
> >
> > Sue Larson
> >
> > On Fri, 06 Dec 2002 23:07:23 -0600 Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > writes:
> >> Jeff and all;
> >> A new car with a leather or cloth interior has a wonderful smell,
> >> vinyl
> >> Stinks.
> >> Ray Jones
> >>
> >>> From: mr-320@xxxxxxxxx
> >>> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 07:26:38 -0700 (MST)
> >>> To: groveautomotive@xxxxxx (Dave Grove Grove Automotive)
> >>> Cc: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, paul_martin78ca@xxxxxxxx (Paul
> >> Martin)
> >>> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] gassy vinyls
> >>>
> >>> its amazing, here evryone is busy complaining about the NEW
> >>> CAR smell..
> >>>
> >>> JEFF
> >>> tucson az.
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 15:47:48 -0500
From: Mark Souders <souders@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Windshield Rubber
Well guys, the verdict is in. I soaked my rubbers in GoJo for 4 days. They
are both clean and soft. I installed both front and back glass on Saturday
morning. It took us 15 minutes for the front and 20 minutes for the back.
I brushed on the GoJo generously with a paint brush, making sure to get
inside the pinchweld slot, the glass slot, and under the lock flap. I
coiled them up in a wash tub and sealed the top with Saran Wrap. They
soaked for 2 days, and then I opened up the tub and rebrushed them and
covered them again. Friday night I removed the rubbers, wiped them with a
ScotchBrite pad saturated with GoJo, and hosed them off to remove the GoJo.
I laid them flat in my heated garage to dry overnight. The next day they
were clean and soft, and I'm sure that's why the glass went in so easily.
The hardest part was squeezing the sealant into the slots.
Thanks for all the advice,
Mark Souders
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 13:21:55 -0800
From: "JOHN MC ADAMS" <clafong@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Handy Hint for a Rubber Lubricant
Just a handy hint that I learned many years ago while installing the rubber handgrips and foot rubbers on a motorcycle.
For a fabulous rubber lubricant, use common rubbing alcohol. It lubricates the rubber very well and within a few minutes it will evaporate and the rubber will not slip around. It also seldom affects any nearby paint or upholstery.
John Mc Adams
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Souders [mailto:souders@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 12:48 PM
To: 'Chrysler 300 Yahoo Group'
Subject: [Chrysler300] Windshield Rubber
Well guys, the verdict is in. I soaked my rubbers in GoJo for 4 days. They
are both clean and soft. I installed both front and back glass on Saturday
morning. It took us 15 minutes for the front and 20 minutes for the back.
I brushed on the GoJo generously with a paint brush, making sure to get
inside the pinchweld slot, the glass slot, and under the lock flap. I
coiled them up in a wash tub and sealed the top with Saran Wrap. They
soaked for 2 days, and then I opened up the tub and rebrushed them and
covered them again. Friday night I removed the rubbers, wiped them with a
ScotchBrite pad saturated with GoJo, and hosed them off to remove the GoJo.
I laid them flat in my heated garage to dry overnight. The next day they
were clean and soft, and I'm sure that's why the glass went in so easily.
The hardest part was squeezing the sealant into the slots.
Thanks for all the advice,
Mark Souders
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 21:17:33 EST
From: RONVE@xxxxxxx
Subject: Slightly off Topic
If anyone is interested in a Superbird, I am familiar with this one, ...
<A HREF="" href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1874527613">http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1874527613">eBay Motors item 1874527613 (Ends Dec-19-02?07:16:56 PST ) - Plymouth :
SUPERBI</A>
I showed my Plymouth with him a few times this past summer, ... this car is a
beauty. The guy is selling it cause he's going after a Daytona. Owner is a
member of our local (Chicago) Mopar Club.
Ron...
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 22:23:41 -0800
From: "MGalassi" <C300lover@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: MetalCrafters - reply
This is in my neighborhood. If anyone needs help or wants me to drop in and
look at a panel for them, let me know.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlie Valentine" <cross.ram@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Chrysler 300 Club Listverver" <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "John
Hertog" <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "obiwan10" <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] MetalCrafters - reply
> Roger said "Incidentally where is MetalCrafters located?"
>
> I need not any of these panels and do indeed know absolutely nothing about
> MetalCrafters but I did indeed do a simple search and found out their
> address.
>
> MetalCrafters
> 11161 Slater Ave
> Fountain Valley, CA 92708
>
> Sure some of you may have needed these panels yesterday but it looks like
> they are not available for sale yet. Will they ever be? Who knows? Is it
> possible that they might have other more important projects, contracts and
> other commitments than these panels? We can only hope that this panel
> project really happens but for now lets all be a little PATIENT. Or maybe
we
> can all flood them with calls and emails, get them really MAD and then
they
> can scratch the whole project and any future projects.
>
> Perhaps someone on the left coast who lives nearby could stop in for a
> friendly visit and get a feel for their projection on this panel project.
> This would certainly help a lot of members who need these panels an give
> them some absolute answers.
>
> Just my 300 cents worth.
>
> Charlie Valentine, Pennsylvania
> Black 300G (Project, need help)
> Red 62 Sport Convertible
> 61 New Yorker and Newport
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "obiwan10" <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Chrysler 300 Club Listverver" <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "John
> Hertog" <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 11:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] MetalCrafters - reply
>
>
> > My friend is quite aware of MetalCrafters from previous dealings and he
> does not believe that he is confusing them with anyone. I showed him the
> photos of the prototype quarters on the website and he was immediately a
> skeptic. This was some 6 weeks or so ago. There also is a renown auto
> upholstery fabric manufacture in the Northwest US(WA) who he also has such
> an opinion of. Ordered and paid for up front upholstery fabric for his
New
> Yorker and in some 3 years has yet to receive it. There are in this
> industry many frauds, scams and charlatans and many of our members have at
> one time or another been victim. In fact I suspect that most of us have
> been made promises that have been broken by some of these types of
> operatives. Incidentally my friend is located in Southern Calif and he
> among the best at what he does. Incidentally where is MetalCrafters
> located?
> >
> > Perhaps we shall know more as this quarter panel project plays out.
> >
> > Roger
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: John Hertog
> > To: Chrysler 300 Club Listverver
> > Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 2:40 PM
> > Subject: [Chrysler300] MetalCrafters - reply
> >
> >
> > Obiwan,
> >
> > Sounds to me like your friend has MetalCrafters confused with someone
> else.
> > MetalCrafters has not, so far, manufactured repro panels or any repro
> parts,
> > for sale to the public. Rather they make one-off show cars for
> > DaimlerChrysler and others. They only agreed to do these panels as a
> favor
> > to D/C thanks to some serious prodding from D/C brass... more info
> about
> > the company can be found on their web site:
> http://www.metalcrafters.com/ .
> > Sure doesn't sound like flakes to me. Not that I am endorsing the
> quality of
> > their product - haven't seen any yet, nor heard from anyone who has !
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "obiwan10"
> >
> >
> > > I was told by a Auto Restorer(who many of you know) friend of mine,
> when I
> > had mentioned to him about 30 days ago that MetalCrafters had
developed
> a
> > lower panel replacement for the 300 C, that these guys were flakes and
> that
> > he would believe it when he saw them, and if he saw them he would he
> very
> > skeptical of the quality.
> >
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