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There are 5 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. kickdown operates ! ( was KD problem on '57 Torqflt) long post
From: Philippe Courant <accf-club@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
2. 300H for Sale
From: Mark Souders <souders@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
3. Two rear speakers? '57 Two speed defog?
From: "Wayne Graefen" <wgraefen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
4. Re: Lug nuts on 64 300K Left and right differences?
From: "Warren R Anderson" <wranderson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
5. Chrysler 300..FW: Speakers
From: Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 13:40:08 +0200
From: Philippe Courant <accf-club@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: kickdown operates ! ( was KD problem on '57 Torqflt) long post
Hi all,
1. I've made some adjustements on KD linkage and, yes, now it works
! But i haven't follow the manual instructions ! On my car that
doesn't work !! I've made a special page about this KD adjustement
: http://www.ifrance.com/c-i-f/fvb_us.htm
2. About "runaway" on 2-3 upshifts, i've tried to adjust the KD band
and here are the results: Yesterday i removed the oil pan (clean)
and took a look at KD lever : seems OK but i wanted to re-check
the KD lever adjustement.
I've three manuals and the KD adjustements is different on each !!
I've read also that some 300 (and other sport cars) have a
different KD lever (ratio 4.25 versus 3.2 on other) so the
adjustement must be different. My KD lever is a 3.2 ratio, i've
measured it..
- 57 Chrysler/Imperial shop manual says: (..) back the adjusting
screw 3 1/2 turns
- 57-59 Mopar (canadian) manual says for 1738227 trans : (..) back
the adjusting screw 2 1/4 turns
- 59 Torqueflite reference guide says: (..) back the adjusting
screw 2 1/2 turns (2 turns on sport cars)
(all these adjustements are made after a 75 inch/pound torque on
the screw)
- I try the first adjustement ( 3 1/2) and test the car : wrong,
i've "lost" the 2nd and the car upshifts from 1 to 3 (D position)
!! If i forced the 2nd button, the trans. slips a lot and i pushed
fastly the D button ... Same when started from a stop, 1 , then
lot of slippage in 2. I didn't test the KD ...
- I re-adjust to have 2 1/4 then test : now i found again the
"2". When i start from a stop with "light foot", car starts in 1
then (at 13-15 mph) upshift to 2 but immediatly (1 or 2 seconds)
goes to 3 !! The trans. doesn't want to stay in 2.. If i have a
"heavy foot" the car upshifts at higher speed and rests a little
longer in 2. If i force in "2", the car seems sluggish. KD is the
same than in # 2 paragraph
- last try, i adjust the screw to 2 turns (like "sport cars" !.
Works great ! The KD 3-2 is good (no runaway) and if i release a
little the pedal, the upshift in 3 is immediate w/o slipage .. If
i shift to 2 position, a very little runaway, i feel that the car
"pushes" fast and when i shift to D, immediate response... I've
noted that the runaway still exists but only if i have a "very
light" throttle. In this case the 1-2 occurs at 15 mph and the 2-3
(with the runaway) at 20 mph .
Conclusion: the runaway still exists but only at light throttle.
If the acc. pedal is at 1/3 or 1/2 (or more) no runaway ... But ..
bad mpg. And perhaps my KD band needs new relining (too thin)..
3. Another interesting item is "The new Chrysler Torqueflite
transmission, hydraulic system", manual from Chrysler division
that i've bought on ebay; I think that this (technical) manual
shows a lot of infos and pics not showed in FSM so i've scaned the
pages and put them at http://www.ifrance.com/c-i-f/tqf-intro.htm
4. I've also updated the "Mirror-matic page" at
http://www.ifrance.com/c-i-f/mirrormatic_1959.htm
5. Last, i've updated the "safety switches Torqueflite page" at
http://www.ifrance.com/c-i-f/tqf-sw.htm with some infos (from G.
Riehl) about adjustements, oil, etc..
I think these infos would be helping , it's the reason why i put them
on my site.
--
Philippe COURANT (Pau, France)- Webmaster des sites ACCF et C-I-F
Imperial 1957 Crown convertible
Buick 1996 Roadmaster wagon
- American Car Club de France (ACCF) : http://www.accf.com
- Chrysler Imperial France (C-I-F) : http://www.ifrance.com/c-i-f
- Cadillac " Standard of Excellence " : http://www.ifrance.com/accf-cad
- SportsCars : http://www.ifrance.com/accf-sprtcar
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 07:40:07 -0400
From: Mark Souders <souders@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: 300H for Sale
Good morning group,
I have for sale a restored black 300H coupe. This car has undergone a
rotisserie restoration, started at Atlas Restorations in Timmonsville, SC
and completed in my garage near Reading, PA. New chrome, polished
stainless,
loads of NOS and Gary Goers parts. I will have the car at Carlisle this
weekend. Email me privately if you have questions or for more
information.
souders@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Mark Souders
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:03:12 -0500
From: "Wayne Graefen" <wgraefen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Two rear speakers? '57 Two speed defog?
In '57 at least, there was no option of having two rear package shelf
speakers.
The defogger was single wire, single speed and the dash toggle was on/off.
Wayne
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:40:08 -0700
From: "Warren R Anderson" <wranderson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Lug nuts on 64 300K Left and right differences?
Over-torquing is now a greater
>possibility than before because most of the modern
>cars call for upwards of 85 ft-lbs. on the lug nuts
>instead of the 65 ft-lbs. we are supposed to have. The
>installers sometimes forget to readjust their
>pneumatic torque wrenches.
The proper tool to use when tightening wheel fasteners is an accurete,
hand
powered torque wrench. Anything pneumatic powered in a tire shop is an
impact wrench and is not acceptable. There are torque limiting 'torque
sticks' that are used with air guns but they are compromised in accuracy
by
so many factors that good tire shops that know what they are doing won't
use
them. See a stack of torque wrenches on tool boxes in a tire shop and that
is the shop to use for tire work. BTW, alloy wheels absolutely will not
tolerate zip up air guns and stretched studs with bad threads and worn out
studs and nuts are the result of gun use with steel wheels.
Nuts that are distorted and are not free to turn on the studs are probably
the victims of overzealous air gun use (or corrosion as another factor,
maybe). DGF (NAPA has it) works very well on wheel fasteners as a lube (it
is NASCAR spec'd stuff, I think also) and doesn't collect dirt like my
favorite Never-Seez lube and provides some corrosion protection. Even, net
clamp load is what is important in keeping wheels on a vehicle and running
true.
HTH
Warren Anderson
Sedona,AZ
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 22:10:34 -0500
From: Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Chrysler 300..FW: Speakers
Hi All;
Here's more info about possable reproduction of'55-'57 rear speakers.
Wayne
Grafen posted the original link a week ago. If you have any need, sign up.
It may never happen, but sure won't if nobody responds.
Contact him at: slowbob@xxxxxxxxxxx
See ya in Dayton, Ray Jones
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> From: Henry Selick <slowbob@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:17:14 -0700
> To: Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Speakers
>
> Ray-
> I was wondering if you could place my speaker survey (I copied it here)
> on the Chrysler 300 Club website (I assume you're a member; I'm not --
> I'm from the world of vintage guitar amps]. We need all the orders we
> can get in order for Ted Weber of Weber VST to tool up and make the
> repro speakers. I get nothing out of this except a couple of new
> speakers and some satisfaction for helping a lot of cool cars and
> guitar amps sound better with the right speaker. Ted says he needs a
> minimum of 100 to 150 orders to go forward; so far I'm at about 35 and
> slowing. I asked another car buff to do this, Paul (email address:
> white300c@xxxxxxx), but didn't hear back.
> thanks,
> Henry S
>
> Ted Weber of Weber VST is ready to make replacement 6 x 11 Rola-style
> car radio speakers if enough people want to buy them. These are the
> 3.2 ohm oval rear deck speakers used in '55-'57 Chrysler 300's (as well
> as a multitude of Valco guitar amps from that period). Near impossible
> to find used, impossible to get reconed (all the kits are gone). But
> Ted has to be convinced there's enough of us who need them (a minimum
> of 100 to 150 speaker orders for him to go forward). So: who needs a
> complete speaker, who needs a recone (and how many of each)? Send me
> your name and email address and after a couple of weeks; I'll forward
> the info. to Ted. There's no obligation to buy and I don't know what
> price he'll charge, but all his other vintage-style speakers are
> beautfully made, great-sounding and reasonably priced. I'm going to
> post a similar message on some vintage guitar amp sites. I am Henry
> S., email is slowbob@xxxxxxxxxxx I promise your names and e-dresses
> won't be shared with anyone but Ted. Thanks Henry S
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