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Topics in this digest:
1. Re: 300F smog test correction
From: "Warren R Anderson" <wranderson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
2. Re: 300F smog test
From: "Kelly Pierce" <jkrestor300@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
3. MY goodness, 300-C pedal car piece on E-bay
From: paul holmgren <paulholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
4. Test
From: "Bob Jasinski" <rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:00:08 -0700
From: "Warren R Anderson" <wranderson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: 300F smog test correction
>Just a small correction on the information I sent recently. The second
set
>of figures should be at 25 mph and not 15 mph. The 2 tests were run at
15
mph
>and 25 mph.
The Federal IM 240 test is loaded mode and uses a segment of the old, old
LA
4 test driving schedule (also part of the FTP) and very expensive CVS
(constant volume sample) equipment that allows grams per mile exhaust gas
constituants evaluation. The Federal certification numbers are GPM. Quicky
test, gross polluter ID, numbers are spot check volumetric; percent, parts
per million etc. Car may look great with spot check; my propane '56
International does but I would fully expect would be a terrible gross
polutter with a CVS analysis.
With the future advent of OBD III in vehicles, roadside driveby telemetry
equipment will use the onboard vehicle computer to check emissions. You
will
then get a fail, fix notice in the mail if needed. Until then, and even
after for older vehicles, we will continue to flounder around coming up
with
in-use vehicle serveilance testing programs that cost a lot and do little.
JMHO.
Warren Anderson
Sedona,AZ
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 20:43:00 -0600
From: "Kelly Pierce" <jkrestor300@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: 300F smog test
Greetings Group!
Thanks God I live in Montana where at least (so far) the politicians
have left us old car people alone and we don't have emission testing- 90%
of
the vehicles used here for farm and ranch work would never pass! Many
ranchers remove the converters for fear of grass fires while using them in
the fields and pastures etc., those that don't use diesels. And yes our
sky's are still BIG SKY BLUE! Please remember though- tell all your
friends that drive brand X and blue ovals etc. that Montana really is the
pits and we don't have indoor plumbing and the hitchin' rail is still out
front for the horses.....Mine is but for the 300's horses so to speak!!
----- Original Message -----
From: <moparpjf@xxxxxxx>
To: <laurence_g_johnson@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <DAN300F@xxxxxxx>;
<Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 300F smog test
> In a message dated 8/25/2003 10:33:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> laurence_g_johnson@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
>
>
> > This serves to point out that the 60's high performance and muscle
cars
> > weren't the big offenders with regard to air pollution. Their engines
were
> > fairly efficient and had good combustion characteristics, thats why
they
> > made a lot of power. They took the rap while the real offenders were
the
> > millions of six cylinders and low compression V-8's that powered
grocery
> > getters and family sedans.
> >
> >
>
> New Jersey is getting closer and closer to California as far as
> emissions go, but I have refused to register my cars as historical
because
if you
> do, the state only allows you 3,000 miles a year. I'm still not sure
how
they
> can legally limit your dirving outside of the state, but they do.
>
> In any event, because I have regular plates, the cars have to
pass
> inspection every year. While they do have somewhat lower standards for
older
> cars, both the G and the K go right through without a problem. I don't
know what
> the actual numbers are, but both cars have gone through without any
playing
> with the fuel system to make them lean. Of course, the G is still a
fairly new
> engine (maybe 6,000 miles) but the K engine has been around for a while.
I
> guess these things are better than we thought.
>
> Pete
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 22:26:28 -0500
From: paul holmgren <paulholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: MY goodness, 300-C pedal car piece on E-bay
Too bad this item is so incomplete
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3143108229&category=726
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Paul Holmgren
Hoosier Corps #33, L-6
2 57 300-C's in Indy
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 21:34:45 -0700
From: "Bob Jasinski" <rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Test
Just a test, got bounced from Yahoo Groups.
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