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There are 12 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. 1965 300L Coupe For Sale
From: "ken boyd" <Kenrand65@xxxxxxx>
2. 300C report from Chicago
From: "L.Andrew Jugle" <lajugle@xxxxxxxxxxx>
3. Re: 300C report from Chicago
From: ronbo97@xxxxxxxxxxx
4. Re: 300's made out of radioactive Jap metal.
From: Don Wheeler <cdflyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
5. 1962 nos fenders for sale
From: DC300G@xxxxxxx
6. Daimler/Chrysler event in New York City 10/07/03
From: John Hertog <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
7. New 300c report
From: "Krikhaar, Alex" <akrikhaar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
8. glove box question
From: "my69300" <tubman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
9. glove box again
From: "my69300" <tubman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
10. Re: glove box again
From: "Steve Galezowski" <stevenlulu@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
11. Re: New Members
From: Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
12. Re: 300's made out of radioactive Jap metal.
From: "Owen & Jo Grigg" <ram300@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 11:44:43 +0000
From: "ken boyd" <Kenrand65@xxxxxxx>
Subject: 1965 300L Coupe For Sale
I picked up this 300L about 15 years ago and I don't think I'll ever get to
it. I drove the car for a few days after I rescued it from the crusher. The
car is absolutely Rust Free except for the right rear lower quarter panel
where the body touched the ground - an easy fix. Various dents & dings - all
repairable. Correct hub caps, correct emblems in place, correct headlight,
all glass good. It should run. Interior mostly dry rotted. Has 300 Sport
Grill. Very few trim parts are missing. This car is/was Baby Blue with Blue
interior. Never been repainted.
Have original window sticker, owners manaul, 300L manual, build sheet,
correct title in my name.
Car is LOADED. Air, tilt, windows, seats. This is not a parts car but needs
restored. Sold new in Albuquerque by Lloyd McKee Chrysler and still here.
90,000 miles+/-
This car is stored outside and is getting worse each year.
Price is $700.00 which is what I paid for it 15+ years ago. I will not get
the car running for overseas shipment.
The club has the numbers on this car.
Come and get it. I'll help you load
What did I forget?
Ken Boyd
Albuquerque, New Mexico
1-505-379-6268
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 14:03:41 -0000
From: "L.Andrew Jugle" <lajugle@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: 300C report from Chicago
In real life the car is not too bad. It is coming in three versions,
2.7 L., 3.5 L. and 300 C Hemi 5.7 L. There is fuzzy logic as to name
designation, but remember: to the great unwashed, no one understands
what "300" meant; it is what "300M" did in sales that they (D-C) are
counting on. Super-charged Magnum wagon will be the racer of the two
cars. There were some 10 300 Letter people present; I wish I had
brought one of the C convertibles, but it would have up-staged the
show and put the presenters in an unusual place.
When the '79 melt-down at Chrysler was happening, the quote of the
day was "...you can't get a happy fart from a sad ass..." That tone
is clearly evident from the demeanor of the promotional team present.
>From their presentation perspective, I suggested they better had
named project "AIRFLOW"; the styling, the body re-engineering and
rear wheel drive "big car" return would have better fit the history.
This hybridized Mercedes-Chrysler might be as signifigant a stand as
the "K" car was for Iacocca in '80. Sadly, one could only think of
Avanti at Studebaker, and the '57 Packards with blowers (coupe and
wagon) that signaled the end of the two other American giants of the
past. (..and also involved Mercedes!!!)
L. Andrew Jugle, Elmhurst, IL
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 14:45:31 +0000
From: ronbo97@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: 300C report from Chicago
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 08:21:46 -0700
From: Don Wheeler <cdflyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: 300's made out of radioactive Jap metal.
Folks,
I don't think racial slurs are appropriate for our group.
On 10/1/03 3:06, "Owen & Jo Grigg" <ram300@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Heck, found this on http://www.allpar.com/history/inside/plymouth-6.shtml
>
> Does this mean our Chryslers are rusty radioactive Jap bombs?
>
> Owen
>
> Some 20 years later, in the 1970s, it was suspected, and alleged that in a
> government effort to aid the economy of Japan in the mid 1950s, steel was
> melted down for shipment to the United States. Under a subsidy, this steel was
> sold to the largest users, which of course, was the automotive industry.
> Purportedly this steel was from the Atom Bombed buildings left in Hiroshima
> and Nagasaki. Of course this does raise a deadly radio activity question,
> however, conclusive tests showed that remelted iron and steel returns to
> normal, since it is a "new" metal. The true issue was that it contained high
> levels of iron, which is a notorious oxidizer. As well introduction of nickel
> or chromium, into the molten steel, which are good oxidation resistors, was
> prevented due to cost considerations!
>
> The use of that poor quality steel, along with the considerable lack of rust
> resistance methods on the line, garnered Chrysler a poor reputation that still
> lingers today in some people's minds. Yet, given what we know now about the
> steel from Japan, it is totally unfair to lay all the rust problems at
> Chrysler's door step. They were doing their patriotic duty for the country.
> Some repayment they got for that.
>
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:36:08 EDT
From: DC300G@xxxxxxx
Subject: 1962 nos fenders for sale
If anyone is interested in a set of NOS 1962 short wheel base fenders drop me
a e-mail I am dealing with a guy that is brining them to Hershey next week.
Dave
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 18:42:54 -0400
From: John Hertog <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Daimler/Chrysler event in New York City 10/07/03
Hi everyone !
Now it seems that the Chrysler ad agency that put on the Chicago Hemi 300C /
Dodge Magnum SRT-8 affair will be repeating the show in New York City. So,
once again, y'all New York area Chrysler 300 Club members are invited to
the event. Same story, Car and Driver Editor Jim McCraw will be the guest
speaker.
DATE: Tuesday, October 7th, 2003
TIME : 6:00 to 8:00 PM - Cocktails and Hors D'Oeuvres.
WHERE : Splashlight Studios / 529 W. 35th Street / NYC NY
HOW : call 888-423-3332 for registration / reservation. Mention that you
are a member of the Chrysler 300 Club International. You are allowed one
guest.
DO IT !!!!
(P.S.) any area Club members planning to attend, please let me know
personally at crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
John Hertog
Sag Harbor NY
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:27:03 -0500
From: "Krikhaar, Alex" <akrikhaar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: New 300c report
After seeing the new 300 here in Chicago I wanted to give my personal
impression of the car. There's the good, bad & ugly, so bear with me.
First the good news: the car looks and is big and powerful, with a 120"
wheelbase, an overall length of almost 200", and a powerful new hemi engine.
It will also have numerous technical improvements such as ESP, traction
control, better brakes, special Goodyear tires, etc. Most of these are
already seen on Mercedes cars, and it will be great to see them becoming
more commonplace in mid-priced American cars (remember when ABS and airbags
seemed exotic items on luxury cars?). It will supposedly also have some more
gadget like amenities, such as rain-sensing wipers, a proximity warning
system when backing up, etc. Personally I think that money could have been
spent better elsewhere, but more on that later. Loved the 160 MPH
speedometer, of course, as well as the electro-luminescent dash lighting.
As far as looks is concerned, it looks massive and heavy, yet powerful at
the same time. Several persons at the viewing compared the look to the
latest Bentley design, and there is some resemblance there. The Chrysler
boys used a late 60's styling trick (back then it was called fuselage
styling), where they raised the beltline of the car, making the windows
narrower, thus giving the car more visual "bulk". It's true, you won't
mistake this car for anything else on the road. The big upright (fake
plastic) chrome grille sits flush with the front bumper, and will undoubtly
be a source of lots of owner frustration, because the thing will never
survive a trailer hitch backing up into it. The other mistake made on the
front are the plastic lens covered headlights, first because the plastic
felt very thin and unsubstantial, secondly because the lens is set about an
inch into the body, and will therefore get filled with snow and ice in a
good storm. There are no headlight wipers or sprayers to take care of this
potentially dangerous design flourish. The hood styling and rear deck in my
opinion look great, as does the treatment of the rear c-pillar.
There's a ton of chrome trim on the exterior, all of it plastic, including
the door handles, mirror housings, and grille. The mirror housings
especially look cheap, and would have looked better in a neutral or body
color. The flashy chrome tire rims look like they came from Warshawsky's,
and don't help the look of the car. Ironically, the less powerful "touring"
version of the 300 will have aluminum rims, which I would swap in a second.
On the interior the raised beltline is a little disconcerting, as it makes
you feel like a little kid straining to look out of the car windows.
Visibility is horrible, and the windshield is so narrow that I can touch the
rearview mirror and the top of the dash with one hand at the same time,
which means there's only about 8 inches between the two. The new Chrysler
Pacifica has a continuous console, reminding me a lot of my 300F (not as
pretty, though), whereas the new 300 does not. The steering wheel looks a
bit cheesy, and the Pacifica's steering wheel would have looked much better
on this car. The center silver colored control console seems like a poor
man's imitation of what one already finds in Audi's and Volkswagens. The
worst interior styling mistake (aside from it being a 4-door sedan) would be
the use of translucent "tortoise shell" plastic trim on the top of the
steering wheel and on the interior doorhandles. One guy was overheard asking
the Chrysler marketing honcho if it came with a matching purse (okay, it was
me, but boy, it really was the pits). The Chrysler guy told me this ugly
trim was an idea from the styling studio everybody liked, and that it would
only be on the 300c-hemi, not on the touring version. That's right, the
touring version will feature a black leather wrapped wheel and aluminum door
handles.
Conclusion: if you really want to get one, get the touring version, and then
drop the hemi in that car. Also get some good insurance, you'll need it. My
final impression of seeing the car in the flesh is that, with its big,
chromey upright grille, heavy styling and flashy gadgets, Chrysler managed
to build the perfect new Cadillac. Despite the great engineering, the lack
of real quality in the trim and finishes is disappointing, but probably in
the best of Chrysler tradition. Don't tell me that for a given price you
can't get good quality, because as much as I don't like them, the interiors
of Honda's and Toyota's are a lot better put together, and if this car wants
to run with the likes of Lexus and BMW, they better spend some money there,
and forget about the rain-sensing windshield wipers.
Alex Krikhaar
300F (and a fine 1991 Mercedes 420)
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 23:31:27 -0000
From: "my69300" <tubman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: glove box question
Is ther a way to fix the lock an a glove box with out switching
it out and haveing to add one more new key to my key ring.I have
a 69 300.
Chris
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 23:34:10 -0000
From: "my69300" <tubman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: glove box again
It looks like I left out some info.
The lock will not lock.The button
to open it works but when I put the
key in it will not turn.
Chris
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:02:31 -0400
From: "Steve Galezowski" <stevenlulu@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: glove box again
Chris:
Try taking it to a locksmith. I had a recent similar problem and it cost me
$12.50 to fix it.
Steve Galezowski
300L
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From: "my69300" <tubman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 7:34 PM
Subject: [Chrysler300] glove box again
It looks like I left out some info.
The lock will not lock.The button
to open it works but when I put the
key in it will not turn.
Chris
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 22:42:21 -0500
From: Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: New Members
Welcome to the group. I'm sure we'll need some of your services, and
hopefully we can help you.
Ray Jones
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 19:36:19 +1200
From: "Owen & Jo Grigg" <ram300@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: 300's made out of radioactive Jap metal.
Apologies to those that read something other than "car stuff " into this.
Owen
----- Original Message -----
From: Don Wheeler <cdflyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 3:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 300's made out of radioactive Jap metal.
Folks,
I don't think racial slurs are appropriate for our group.
On 10/1/03 3:06, "Owen & Jo Grigg" <ram300@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Heck, found this on http://www.allpar.com/history/inside/plymouth-6.shtml
>
> Does this mean our Chryslers are rusty radioactive Jap bombs?
>
> Owen
>
> Some 20 years later, in the 1970s, it was suspected, and alleged that in a
> government effort to aid the economy of Japan in the mid 1950s, steel was
> melted down for shipment to the United States. Under a subsidy, this steel
was
> sold to the largest users, which of course, was the automotive industry.
> Purportedly this steel was from the Atom Bombed buildings left in
Hiroshima
> and Nagasaki. Of course this does raise a deadly radio activity question,
> however, conclusive tests showed that remelted iron and steel returns to
> normal, since it is a "new" metal. The true issue was that it contained
high
> levels of iron, which is a notorious oxidizer. As well introduction of
nickel
> or chromium, into the molten steel, which are good oxidation resistors,
was
> prevented due to cost considerations!
>
> The use of that poor quality steel, along with the considerable lack of
rust
> resistance methods on the line, garnered Chrysler a poor reputation that
still
> lingers today in some people's minds. Yet, given what we know now about
the
> steel from Japan, it is totally unfair to lay all the rust problems at
> Chrysler's door step. They were doing their patriotic duty for the
country.
> Some repayment they got for that.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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