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- Date: 9 Mar 2004 14:35:12 -0000
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There are 18 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. motor/trans swaps - mount locations
From: "Vath, Michael J." <mjvath@xxxxxxxxx>
2. Re: Auto Jigsaw Puzzles
From: "Don Warnaar" <300country@xxxxxxx>
3. Re: motor/trans swaps - mount locations
From: Russ Vaughan <Pacesetter300@xxxxxxxxx>
4. Re: motor/trans swaps - mount locations
From: "Fern Rivard" <crc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
5. RE: motor/trans swaps - mount locations
From: "Lee Meyer" <js23rob@xxxxxxx>
6. 1961 G Side Emblems
From: russellhousen@xxxxxxx
7. 1961 300G Side Emblems
From: russellhousen@xxxxxxx
8. engine swap
From: Robert Merritt <okbobwynmer@xxxxxxxxx>
9. RE: motor/trans swaps - mount locations
From: GERALD OLSON <olson77@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
10. 413 dual quads
From: quadshop@xxxxxxxx
11. 1961 G Side Emblems - reply - Goers has 'em !
From: John Hertog <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
12. 1961 300G Plastic Side Emblems
From: russellhousen@xxxxxxx
13. 70 Chrysler 300 Hurst
From: HighOctan300H@xxxxxxx
14. Re: Q's on Map Clip & Emergency Flashers
From: "a61300g" <a61300g@xxxxxxxxxxx>
15. motor/trans swaps - mount locations
From: John Hertog <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
16. Re: motor/trans swaps - mount locations
From: "Don Verity" <d.verity@xxxxxxx>
17. Re: motor/trans swaps - mount locations
From: "Pat Grant" <gran102@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
18. 300 F Convert on Ebay for sale, Ex Richard Carpenter
From: "Roger Schaaf" <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 08:36:42 -0600
From: "Vath, Michael J." <mjvath@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: motor/trans swaps - mount locations
Good mornin' & happy Spring.
I wondered if anyone had done a driveline swap in a '61 - dropping-in a
later engine & trans combo?
If so, are motor & trans mount locations the same in later 383/440 cars? I'd
like to combine a '67 440 driveline with a 300G shell.
Other than adapting the shifter mechanism & e-brake, is it a bolt-in
application? Are there pre-fab kits available for joining the push-button
shift?
Many thanks.
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 10:44:12 -0500
From: "Don Warnaar" <300country@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Auto Jigsaw Puzzles
Perhaps that should be '56 Fury (or later). There was no '55.
Don Warnaar
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Schaaf
To: Chrysler 300 list service
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 4:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Auto Jigsaw Puzzles
Watch for the 55 Plymouth Fury
Roger Schaaf
Calif
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne Graefen" <wgraefen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 6:20 PM
Subject: [Chrysler300] Auto Jigsaw Puzzles
Jerry Browarski is a Forwardlooker and 300 owner and has created some car
jigsaw puzzles including appropriate cars in "our" years. Take a look.
Just the thing for rainy spring Sunday evenings.
Wayne
From: Jerry
Subject: Auto Jigsaw Puzzles
I subscribed to a website a couple of weeks ago and figured out how to
create my own puzzles. Since I'm into the
classic and custom cars, I took a number of the pictures that I have stored
on my computer and created puzzles from them. I'll more than likely add
several more to the site as time goes on. If you have any questions, feel
free to ask.
If you go to that page, at the top you'll see a box that says "48 piece
classic" or something similar. That can be changed to various numbers and
shapes.
Jerry
http://www.jigzone.com/ms/g.php?ua=620926153a2035161643
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 09:34:36 -0800 (PST)
From: Russ Vaughan <Pacesetter300@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: motor/trans swaps - mount locations
Mike,
Using the '61 mounts, the engine should go in fine. There is a difference in the oil pan, pretty sure that needs to be changed to the earlier style.
I think you're going to have trouble with the transmission. There's no way I know of to convert it to pushbutton shift. Easiest way out would be to use a '62 transmission. You might think of upgrading the rear brakes to Bendix at the same time, they have a provision for eBrake. That would allow a '63 or '64 transmission by some minor fabricating of eBrake cables and brackets. I'm sure John & Don will chime in as both their G's have (or had) 440's in them.
300ly
Russ Vaughan
"Vath, Michael J." <mjvath@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Good mornin' & happy Spring.
I wondered if anyone had done a driveline swap in a '61 - dropping-in a
later engine & trans combo?
If so, are motor & trans mount locations the same in later 383/440 cars? I'd
like to combine a '67 440 driveline with a 300G shell.
Other than adapting the shifter mechanism & e-brake, is it a bolt-in
application? Are there pre-fab kits available for joining the push-button
shift?
Many thanks.
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 10:52:51 -0800
From: "Fern Rivard" <crc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: motor/trans swaps - mount locations
The 62 tranny would be the better choice as it still has the emergency
brakes set up at the rear of the tranny. I plan to do something similar
to this with my 1957 dodge custom royal lancel using either a 64 or 65
413 engine coupled to a 1962 727 tranny so I can still use by push
buttons. I thought of using a 1964 300K c/w with correct exhaust
manifolds but don't know just how well the cross rams would fit in
there.
Fern
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From: "Russ Vaughan" <Pacesetter300@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Vath, Michael J." <mjvath@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] motor/trans swaps - mount locations
Mike,
Using the '61 mounts, the engine should go in fine. There is a
difference in the oil pan, pretty sure that needs to be changed to the
earlier style.
I think you're going to have trouble with the transmission. There's no
way I know of to convert it to pushbutton shift. Easiest way out would
be to use a '62 transmission. You might think of upgrading the rear
brakes to Bendix at the same time, they have a provision for eBrake.
That would allow a '63 or '64 transmission by some minor fabricating of
eBrake cables and brackets. I'm sure John & Don will chime in as both
their G's have (or had) 440's in them.
300ly
Russ Vaughan
"Vath, Michael J." <mjvath@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Good mornin' & happy Spring.
I wondered if anyone had done a driveline swap in a '61 - dropping-in a
later engine & trans combo?
If so, are motor & trans mount locations the same in later 383/440 cars?
I'd
like to combine a '67 440 driveline with a 300G shell.
Other than adapting the shifter mechanism & e-brake, is it a bolt-in
application? Are there pre-fab kits available for joining the
push-button
shift?
Many thanks.
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 10:11:22 -0800
From: "Lee Meyer" <js23rob@xxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: motor/trans swaps - mount locations
Ok, here is the deal. The engine will bolt in fine with early type
mounts. You have a couple choices with transmissions, 62-64 ball&
trunion type and the 65 one year only slip yoke cable shift or
pushbutton trans. You will also need a crossmember & trans mount from a
62-64 full size Chrysler.
Here is what I would recommend:
Go to your local scrapyard and pilfer a 66-68 C body of its rear axle
assembly with E brake cables and such, cut off its cable brackets and
guides as well and install per similar locations on your G. This axle
will bolt right into your 300G. Get the driveshaft from the same car if
you can as you will need it as well, any driveshaft shop can make it the
correct length for you. Find any 65 chrysler product car with a big
block 361+ engine in it and relieve said vehicle of its transmission and
all cables, shifter, speedo etc. These 65 cables should all fit fine on
the 300G shifter and speedo. You will not be using the Park feature of
the trans unless you want get creative with your fabricating skills,
this is one of the reasons you nabbed that axle out of that newer C
body, e brakes. You will have to adapt the 300G E brake cable to the
cable setup on the newer axle but that is a pretty minor deal. The only
fabricating issue you might have is the mount position on the 65 trans
versus the 62-64 trans. I think they are in the same spot but I have to
go to the storage garage today and check, I have a 300J trans to compare
with a slip yoke style. This is a bitchin swap to update the drivetrain
to easily serviceable later model parts.(trans parts, brake parts, U
joints etc) Unless someone looks underneath the car, everything appears
stock. Sell that drum puller on ebay.
Lee in San Diego
-----Original Message-----
From: Vath, Michael J. [mailto:mjvath@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 6:37 AM
To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Chrysler300] motor/trans swaps - mount locations
Good mornin' & happy Spring.
I wondered if anyone had done a driveline swap in a '61 - dropping-in a
later engine & trans combo?
If so, are motor & trans mount locations the same in later 383/440 cars?
I'd
like to combine a '67 440 driveline with a 300G shell.
Other than adapting the shifter mechanism & e-brake, is it a bolt-in
application? Are there pre-fab kits available for joining the
push-button
shift?
Many thanks.
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 13:43:27 EST
From: russellhousen@xxxxxxx
Subject: 1961 G Side Emblems
Anyone know where I can find a repro set of Side Emblems for my G?
Thanks,Russell
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 13:50:14 EST
From: russellhousen@xxxxxxx
Subject: 1961 300G Side Emblems
Just to clarify: I am looking for the Plastic red, white and blue inserts, my
chrome "300 G" will be fine after they come back from the plater.
Thanks,
Russell
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 11:08:15 -0800 (PST)
From: Robert Merritt <okbobwynmer@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: engine swap
In addition to the excellent advice from several others, you might want to check out the pushbutton control. Altho they appear similar and will bolt in the same location, the 1961 and earlier cast-iron torqueflite pushbutton controls are not always compatable with the 1962 thru 1964 aluminum transmission pushbutton control.
I discovered this the hard way back in the late 60s after I had stuffed a 1961 Plymouth Fury big-block with the castiron torqueflite in a 1962 Lancer GT that had originally been powered by a 225 slant 6.
I had everything installed, including the 1961 control in the dash, but when I tried to finish by installing the pushbuttons in the control, they were different. I tried every way I could, but there was one pushbutton that just wouldn't fit. It has been too many years to be sure, but I think it was the reverse button that I finally had to drill a hole in the faceplate and make a pushbutton out of a long bolt to use that gear. This worked OK on a machine being built for the drag strip, as well as street driving, but you wouldn't want it in your 300G.
The way to check it out, [hindsight] is to assemble the pushbuttons and faceplate from your car, and then see if the same pushbuttons and faceplate will fit the 62-64 pushbutton control that matches the transmission you are using.
Someone else in the club may know if early [61 back]and late [62-64] V8 equiped full-size cars used the same control, but the early Lancer,[same size car as Valiant] didn't. It could be my problem was going from Slant 6 to V8, but check it out first.
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 11:23:00 -0800 (PST)
From: GERALD OLSON <olson77@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: motor/trans swaps - mount locations
Mr. Vath, Mr. Meyer gives good advice! I might
emphasize the point, that you need to get the 65 rear
mount{removable cross member} when you grab the 65
trans. from the donner c-body. And you will need your
61-413 pan and pickup tube for your 440. Cut just the
mounting pad out of your 61 cross member then take
allot of metal when you cut the mounting pad off the
65 cross member! If you've got any questions on how to
proceed with this, call me. I've done it! Imperial
Motors has new rear mounts for the 65 also. Regards,
Jerry Olson
--- Lee Meyer <js23rob@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Ok, here is the deal. The engine will bolt in fine
> with early type
> mounts. You have a couple choices with
> transmissions, 62-64 ball&
> trunion type and the 65 one year only slip yoke
> cable shift or
> pushbutton trans. You will also need a crossmember &
> trans mount from a
> 62-64 full size Chrysler.
> Here is what I would recommend:
> Go to your local scrapyard and pilfer a 66-68 C body
> of its rear axle
> assembly with E brake cables and such, cut off its
> cable brackets and
> guides as well and install per similar locations on
> your G. This axle
> will bolt right into your 300G. Get the driveshaft
> from the same car if
> you can as you will need it as well, any driveshaft
> shop can make it the
> correct length for you. Find any 65 chrysler
> product car with a big
> block 361+ engine in it and relieve said vehicle of
> its transmission and
> all cables, shifter, speedo etc. These 65 cables
> should all fit fine on
> the 300G shifter and speedo. You will not be using
> the Park feature of
> the trans unless you want get creative with your
> fabricating skills,
> this is one of the reasons you nabbed that axle out
> of that newer C
> body, e brakes. You will have to adapt the 300G E
> brake cable to the
> cable setup on the newer axle but that is a pretty
> minor deal. The only
> fabricating issue you might have is the mount
> position on the 65 trans
> versus the 62-64 trans. I think they are in the same
> spot but I have to
> go to the storage garage today and check, I have a
> 300J trans to compare
> with a slip yoke style. This is a bitchin swap to
> update the drivetrain
> to easily serviceable later model parts.(trans
> parts, brake parts, U
> joints etc) Unless someone looks underneath the car,
> everything appears
> stock. Sell that drum puller on ebay.
> Lee in San Diego
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vath, Michael J. [mailto:mjvath@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 6:37 AM
> To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [Chrysler300] motor/trans swaps - mount
> locations
>
> Good mornin' & happy Spring.
> I wondered if anyone had done a driveline swap in a
> '61 - dropping-in a
> later engine & trans combo?
>
> If so, are motor & trans mount locations the same in
> later 383/440 cars?
> I'd
> like to combine a '67 440 driveline with a 300G
> shell.
>
> Other than adapting the shifter mechanism & e-brake,
> is it a bolt-in
> application? Are there pre-fab kits available for
> joining the
> push-button
> shift?
>
> Many thanks.
>
>
>
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 13:35:15 -0600
From: quadshop@xxxxxxxx
Subject: 413 dual quads
Wanted: 62 daul quad complete set up for an H engine. Any one have one
for sale?
Thanks,
Jim McGowan
62 Chrysler 300 Sport
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 14:42:47 -0500
From: John Hertog <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: 1961 G Side Emblems - reply - Goers has 'em !
Hi Russell,
Since there has been some traffic on the listserver recently with regards to
57 thru 61 side medallions, I am going to answer you publicly.
I spoke to Gary Goers yesterday and specifically asked about the
availability of said medallions. Gary's answer was that he has many in
stock, he owns the die, and these side plastic medallions will be available,
well, pretty much forever.
Having seen these first-hand and used quite a few, I can assure you that
they are excellent in every way.
Just e-mail Gary to order (gary@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) and/ or fax him as per
number in the roster. The fax might be a better idea right now as Gary is
having computer problems.
Also, Gary mentionned that all the of the chromed, pot-metal doodas listed
in his most recent catalog in now coming in, such as letters, bezels,
scripts, etc.
Hope this helps,
John Hertog
at work in Riverhead, NY
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 15:16:39 EST
From: russellhousen@xxxxxxx
Subject: 1961 300G Plastic Side Emblems
Thanks for all the replies! I don't have an up to date catalogue and have
been waiting for one in the mail. I have old #7! Can someone get me the part
number and price so that I may add it to my order form? It may take Gary the
better part of this week to eamil me back.
Many thanks!!
Russell
PS. I just spent the better part of an hour stripping the paint out of an old
emblem I bought on Ebay, I just finished wet sanding and buffing scratches
off the front and preparing the back for painting. It would have probably come
out pretty good but I would rather have a new one!!
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 16:47:13 EST
From: HighOctan300H@xxxxxxx
Subject: 70 Chrysler 300 Hurst
Any interest?
I've recently obtain a copy through an eBay body a copy of rare "Muscle Cars
of the 60's & 70's" magazine from 1989.
That issue has a nice spread highlighting the 70 Chrysler 300 Hurst, with all
the specifications, color photos and a detail history of the car.
I'll be happy to make color copies to anyone interested, there are six pages
(4 in color) including the front and back covers of the magazine.
The fee is $12.00 to cover the cost of the color copies and mailing.
Anyone interested please mail your address.
Joe Gross
Cleveland, OH
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 17:26:08 -0500
From: "a61300g" <a61300g@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Q's on Map Clip & Emergency Flashers
Myles / all,
just saw your inquiry so I went out in the garage to verify on my G, and
yes, it does have a horizontally mounted clip on the left side of the glove
box where the cardboard juts out, and stands out about a 1/2 inch from the
cardboard. The words "ROAD MAP" in black letters on a gold background a
little over an inch high is centered vertically on the cardboard. Maps
would be inserted into the clip from the right side. Can only assume it
came from the factory this way.
Del Kerney
61 G
Fort Wayne, In
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 17:41:27 -0500
From: John Hertog <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: motor/trans swaps - mount locations
Hi Mike,
Many years ago, like around 1983, I went thru a period where I was
excessively... broke. At that time, a $100.00 bill represented a small
fortune to me.
I found a '60 Saratoga 2dr htp (LWB) ... was pretty decent all around, but
missing engine and trans and rad. and driveshaft. It was free. The price
was right. I dragged it home. Then someone gave me a mid 70's Newport - big
blue tank... with a great drivetrain. Free. Right up my alley !
Now - this was 20 years ago... so I have forgotten some of the details, but
what I do remember is that this was a no-brainer, very very low buck swap. I
remember having to buy (gasp) a pair of '60 style motor mounts out of
something. With hindsight, I think they were from a short wheelbase wagon. I
ripped the rad, engine, trans and driveshaft out of the Newport and went
for it. Everything fit right in. I htink I had to turn the motor mounts
around. Even the driveshaft did not have to be modified ! Even the NEWPORT
single exhaust system fit right in ! And, what's scary, I do not remember
having any oil pan problems - which makes no sense to me right now.
It cost me next to nothing to make this swap work. Really. A points
distributor was located for the 400 that came out of the Newport, and that
took care of the ignition system. The trans bolted up to the original
crossmember somehow - I don't even remember fabricating anything, and I had
no means or tools to fabricate! It was a no-brainer swap as strange as that
may sound. I definitely could not have afforded any fancy anything, and I
did this in a backyard, with no fancy tools at all.
For a shifter.... I used the stalk from a console-type car shifter. Just
the stalk. I drilled a hole in the floor of the Saratoga (or punched one
out with a chisel...) and attached this stalk to the tranny. It had a
"head" on it which used to connect to the shifter in the console of whatever
car I stole it from.. I used to reach forward, grab the head of the stalk,
select a gear that way, and off we went... a marked improvement was that
the car now had Park ! The original '60 rear was retained. There was no
ebrake at all - I never bothered.
The '60 Saratoga served me well, was very reliable, and eventually was
traded to a Club member on Staten Island (forget his name) who owned a red
"G" convert (?) in the late 80's. I never saw it since. Another car I wish I
still had !
It's beem many years - two decades - but thanks for making me remember
leaner times. Hope this helps in some way.
John
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 18:06:46 -0800
From: "Don Verity" <d.verity@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: motor/trans swaps - mount locations
Hi Russ and All,
Before someone claims I desecrated my G, it has the original 413 in it and
has always had it. My 300-F has a 69 440 with 62 aluminum TF. This is by far
the easiest way to go, as everything that worked on the cast iron trans
works on the 62. Any Chrysler from 62-64 will have a bolt in transmission
crossmember.
300ly,
Don
----- Original Message -----
From: Russ Vaughan <Pacesetter300@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Vath, Michael J. <mjvath@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] motor/trans swaps - mount locations
Mike,
Using the '61 mounts, the engine should go in fine. There is a difference
in the oil pan, pretty sure that needs to be changed to the earlier style.
I think you're going to have trouble with the transmission. There's no way
I know of to convert it to pushbutton shift. Easiest way out would be to
use a '62 transmission. You might think of upgrading the rear brakes to
Bendix at the same time, they have a provision for eBrake. That would allow
a '63 or '64 transmission by some minor fabricating of eBrake cables and
brackets. I'm sure John & Don will chime in as both their G's have (or had)
440's in them.
300ly
Russ Vaughan
"Vath, Michael J." <mjvath@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Good mornin' & happy Spring.
I wondered if anyone had done a driveline swap in a '61 - dropping-in a
later engine & trans combo?
If so, are motor & trans mount locations the same in later 383/440 cars? I'd
like to combine a '67 440 driveline with a 300G shell.
Other than adapting the shifter mechanism & e-brake, is it a bolt-in
application? Are there pre-fab kits available for joining the push-button
shift?
Many thanks.
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 21:26:36 -0500
From: "Pat Grant" <gran102@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: motor/trans swaps - mount locations
did you not desecrate your F? inquiring minds want to know.pat
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From: Don Verity
To: pacesetter300@xxxxxxxxx ; Vath, Michael J.
Cc: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] motor/trans swaps - mount locations
Hi Russ and All,
Before someone claims I desecrated my G, it has the original 413 in it and
has always had it. My 300-F has a 69 440 with 62 aluminum TF. This is by far
the easiest way to go, as everything that worked on the cast iron trans
works on the 62. Any Chrysler from 62-64 will have a bolt in transmission
crossmember.
300ly,
Don
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From: Russ Vaughan <Pacesetter300@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Vath, Michael J. <mjvath@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] motor/trans swaps - mount locations
Mike,
Using the '61 mounts, the engine should go in fine. There is a difference
in the oil pan, pretty sure that needs to be changed to the earlier style.
I think you're going to have trouble with the transmission. There's no way
I know of to convert it to pushbutton shift. Easiest way out would be to
use a '62 transmission. You might think of upgrading the rear brakes to
Bendix at the same time, they have a provision for eBrake. That would allow
a '63 or '64 transmission by some minor fabricating of eBrake cables and
brackets. I'm sure John & Don will chime in as both their G's have (or had)
440's in them.
300ly
Russ Vaughan
"Vath, Michael J." <mjvath@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Good mornin' & happy Spring.
I wondered if anyone had done a driveline swap in a '61 - dropping-in a
later engine & trans combo?
If so, are motor & trans mount locations the same in later 383/440 cars? I'd
like to combine a '67 440 driveline with a 300G shell.
Other than adapting the shifter mechanism & e-brake, is it a bolt-in
application? Are there pre-fab kits available for joining the push-button
shift?
Many thanks.
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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 21:13:47 -0800
From: "Roger Schaaf" <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: 300 F Convert on Ebay for sale, Ex Richard Carpenter
Quite an interesting write up on the history and development of the 300 along with Ebay presentation of the auto. Probably plagiarized from somewhere, but I had not seen before.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6175&item=2464776817
Roger Schaaf
300 B Calif
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