My wife has a 62 Chrysler Nyer wagon with 4bbl 413 and dual exhaust. Many (almost 10) years ago I priced out all the pipes and mufflers from the manifolds back, and it came to over $200 (including clamps, etc.). I then went to a local shop called Lou's Custom Exhaust (North Reading, MA.) and they quoted me a price for complete removal of my old system (no rust in MY eyes) and custom fabrication with side exits behind the rear wheels under the bumper and chrome tips for a very nice look for a price of $188. Didn't take me long to make that decision. That next winter, one of the leaf springs cracked and the car was sagging badly, so I had new springs put on, which changed the orientation of car/exhaust and caused rubbing, rattling, etc. I went back to Lou's in the spring (almost 8 months after the original job), and he made two new tailpipes, including two new chrome tips, and said, "No charge. If we had done the pipes properly in the first place, new springs wouldn't have made them rub like that." Guess where I am now a customer for life, and who I recommend every chance I get? John -----Original Message----- From: robkern@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:robkern@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 8:25 AM To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Bob Merritt Simplex Mfg Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] exhaust systems and my 2 cents Hello 300'ly to all! My experience with my C restoration over the past 23 months summarizes all the experiences of Gary Nelson, Ray Jones, Bob Merritt, et al. I ordered a complete system from Florida from a respected vendor who has been serving our hobby for over 30 years..Kepich exhaust. The stainless sytem along with the correct mufflers arrived in the time frame stated and had to be thoroughly modified by a local custom exhaust shop to get the correct bends and clearances and rattle control. The muffler on the driver side lasted all of 2500 miles before internal baffle welds broke and at idle the sound emanating from under the car was like a Mexican tambourine festival. I called Kepich and of course this was the first time it had ever happened, etc. and he overnighted me a replacement only if I would return the bad one for him to dissect. Did that. The replacement muffler lasted 18 miles before doing the same thing!! Kepich then told me that I was dumping fuel in the exhaust and backfiring (NOT) or the heat riser was jammed on that side(SORRY THE HEAT RISER IS ON THE PASSENGER SIDE...THANKS GEORGE RIEHL). Done with Kepich. I called Waldron's, he had the exact muffler set I needed and overnighted them to me at no extra shipping charge and I replaced the Kepich mufflers with Waldron's...had to modify the Kepich tail pipe length again....and they are sweet!!! So hang in there, knowledge is power and don't settle for anything less than what you want. ROB KERN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Merritt Simplex Mfg" <bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 6:17 AM Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] exhaust systems and my 2 cents > > Without a doubt, having a custom exhaust built from scratch and installed > by > a muffler shop is the way to go. They have the tools and the knowledge to > make things fit and get the clearance you need around frame rails, axles, > torsion bars, gas tanks....... > Price wise, I've found the muffler shop cost is not much more than the > purchase price of a do-it-yourself system.......and it is a lot easier to > write a check. > > Having said that, I have over this winter installed a complete dual system > on an L using the do-it-yourself set of pipes from Classic Exhaust, 805 > Pro-Gram Parkway, Geneva, Ohio 44041. (440) 466-5460. The pipes fit the L > exhaust nicely, enough so that I bought a set of pipes from Classic for an > H. I'll install those when (if) it gets warmer. > > The F or G ram exhaust system is far more complex than an H or L, and I'd > surrender that job to a muffler shop without a second thought. > > R > > > > > To send a message to this group, send an email to: > Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > For list server instructions, go to > http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm Yahoo! Groups Links ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Help save the life of a child. 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