[Chrysler300] Chrysler300's on Trailers

["Rich Barber" <c300@xxxxxxx>]

While most of the reasons given for using nitrogen in tires make some sense,
the thought that nitrogen does not expand with heat is wrong.  Air is about
79% nitrogen and most all gases behave the same at the pressures and
temperatures normally encountered in tires.  In order to achieve all the
benefits of a nitrogen fill, the tire would have to be filled and vented
several times to dilute the air originally in the tire as approximately 1/3
of the gas in a tire at 30 psi would be the original "fill" of atmospheric
pressure air.

My observation is that tires and rims wear out and deteriorate much more
from the outside than inside.

I'm sure all the contributors to this string hope that each of the readers
will be reminded and motivated to check their car, truck and trailer tires
for rating, pressure and condition.  We have a lot riding on those
"maypops".

With regard towing capacity, I agree with the concept of a strong prime
mover with extra capacity.  Our Durango has a rated capacity of 8400# with
AWD and handles the 6500# trailer and car nicely.  Plus it has a "hemi".  

I would want a 3/4T or 1T rated truck or SUV to pull a closed trailer, but
only regular cab, short bed pickemups will fit in my garage.  It came down
to a Tahoe or a Durango and I went with the cubes, HP and rated trailer
towing capacity of the Durango.  I have been in 6, 8 and 10-wheel drifts on
icy Midwest and western interstates and feel no need to relive those
experiences.


C-300'ly,
Rich Barber
Brentwood, CA
1955 C-300 & 2005 Durango (yeah, both got hemis)

-----Original Message-----
From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of G & E Riehl
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 10:20 PM
To: Rich Barber; Ray Jones; hmpirish
Cc: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; MoParP2@xxxxxx
Subject: Re: [May Be SPAM:]Re: [Chrysler300] Chrysler300's on Trailers

  Our small farm town tire shop has got the latest equipment.......they have
a nitrogen station. They advocate removing "air" in the tires and replacing
with nitrogen. Nitrogen does not deterioate the tire from inside. Does not
have "moisture" as conventional air. Pressure stays constant as nitrogen
does not expand with heat. Result...tire stays cooler, inside of tire and
rim does not have any moisture, no internal rim rust. This is the latest
"fad", even for our local street rodders. The farmers here are having it
done on their tractors and other farm equipment.
  George Riehl (Jonesville, MI, in the middle of extensive farm country.)

----- Original Message -----
From: hmpirish <hmpirish@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Rich Barber <c300@xxxxxxx>; Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <MoParP2@xxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 12:26 AM
Subject: [May Be SPAM:]Re: [Chrysler300] Chrysler300's on Trailers


> Rich and All 300 Fans interested in trailers,  Extra capability (load
> capacity) is cheap insurance in a number of areas in this discussion.  As
> those of you at Carlyle last year, or the Maine meet, may know,  I went
> "over the top" when I decided to get a new trailer two plus years ago.  My
> enclosed trailer is rated at 12,000 lb.  I pull with an Excursion (3/4 ton
> pickup equivalent) with a V-10.  I sometimes carry items heavier than big
> Chryslers/Imperials and wanted extra room and weight capability for those
> times.  The tires I purchased are ST235/80R, trailer service only, load
> range D with 3,000lb rating at 65psi by Goodyear.  The max I expect to do
is
> about 10,500, but the "extra" insures every component will hold up well.
> Two other areas beside trailer and tire capability are worth mentioning.
> Adequate pulling vehicle (weight) - A) for directional stability in
slippery
> weather when being passed by an 18 wheeler going 10 over the posted limit,
> and - B) for significant stopping power and traction in the wet or
emergency
> situations.  In addition when tying down your treasure on/in the trailer,
be
> certain the straps have rating at least THREE times the weight of your
car!
> If you ever stop really suddenly - read that " hit anything ",  you do not
> want your car coming loose to pile into your tow vehicle or possibly turn
> over the entire rig.  Either or both of those things are likely when that
> "abrupt stop" puts 2 or 3 G's on your tie down straps!  Doing it all right
> protects you, your family/friends with you, and your car - which is the
> goal.   All the Best 300ing, Phil
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ray Jones" <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Rich Barber" <c300@xxxxxxx>
> Cc: <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <MoParP2@xxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 4:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Chrysler300's on Trailers
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> > For more info on Trailer tires go here:
> > http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3707/is_200209/ai_n9107731
> >
> > Here is an excerpt from the above article:
> >
> >  Adjusting tire pressure can take a few minutes, but it isn't
> > difficult. Having a small compressor at home is a help because the work
> > can be done at your leisure, when the tires are cold. If you must move
> > the trailer to a source of compressed air, the strictest definition of
> > a cold tire is one that has traveled a mile or less, or has cooled for
> > three to four hours. Ambient temperature is also a consideration when
> > setting tire pressures. A 10-degree-rise in ambient temperature equates
> > to a 1 psi change in tire pressure. Thus, if you set your tire
> > pressures on a cool 58-degree F spring day, they will magically rise 2
> > psi the following day should a weather front come through and pop the
> > temperature up to 78 F Dropping temperature lowers tire pressure the
> > same 1 psi per 10 degrees.   So check TP before every trip. Sunlight
> > will also raise the tire pressure
> >
> >  A very real variable is sunlight. Tires in the shade versus those
> > sitting in the sun can have definite pressure differences. Testing by a
> > large tire retailer has shown a 3 psi rise in tires left in the sun all
> > day versus those in the shade. This applies to shade versus sun sides
> > of the trailer, moving the trailer from a cool building into the warm
> > sun and so on. Clearly, setting pressures in even morning light and
> > temperatures simplifies the job.
> >
> > I put "Trailer tire ratings" on Google, this is one of about 3.3
> > million articles.
> > Tow safely, Ray
> >
> >
> > On Jul 1, 2006, at 3:03 PM, Rich Barber wrote:
> >
> >> I bought a two-axle flat-bed trailer and a Durango to pull it in order
> >> to
> >>  take both car and spouse to far-away meets and shows in comfort while
> >>  holding down the miles on the 1955 C-300. I also bought a set of tire
> >>  covers at my RV Supply Store to protect the tires against UV
> >> deterioration.
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