Re: [Chrysler300] BJ Auction view from afar

["JoeyPilot" <Joeypilot@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Very well said. I agree 100%!


Joe Schmitt


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "christopher beilby" <thelastbestgenius@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 3:45 AM
Subject: [Chrysler300] BJ Auction view from afar


> 1) plenty of possible future truth in some people may get burnt re high
> prices paid for some collector cars if a shake comes soon, and these 
> things
> seem to go in 'up cycles', followed by ' hey why have prices collapsed so
> badly?!', and this phase can last 4- 7 years - however if the people/(we) 
> ,
> are buying them for 'whatever they give us', if the future price goes to 
> the
> crapper, does that destroy the car for them/us?!  For those just buying 
> them
> to make money, well they can perhaps cry in their future beers alone !!?
>
> 2) Without studying all the prices in great detail yet, it seems perhaps 
> the
> true worthwhile cars are the ones that hold up better?
> OK $5million US for a Cobra is a hell of a lot of money, but the car if it
> the original, ie is actually Shelby's own original supercharged 427 - one 
> of
> one as Bill Cosby's 2nd only ever other one met with a rather sad 
> history?,
> and besides, Shelby was 'the man', the big man, that nothing against 
> Cosby.
> If there is a true iconic US 60s 'king of the heap Musclecar baddest bad
> arse mother f**********' then it has to be Shelby's own personal blown 427
> Cobra - no L88 Vette, or hemi, or anything I believe comes close - as to 
> the
> $5mill bids - out of my league, but hey if you/ve got $$$$$$$$squillions,
> this is just peanuts for a true piece of US 60s history that may never be 
> up
> for sale soon ??!
> (My only query is I sort of thought Shelby's car also met with a funny
> end/history, yet it now seems maybe not ??)
>
> 3) that black '59 DeSoto Adventurer, with it's gold, looked bloody great - 
> I
> think it was better value, car to own/buy, than the dearer red one?  And 
> re
> other Mopar stuff, if 2 bids/wins of $1.1 million for each of the 54
> (Exner?) show cars, were legit, what is the US view of these prices? And 
> re
> our 300s - OK no $200Kplus prices for Fs and Gs converts, but then that
> black and green Gs of earlier years were real knockouts??  And maybe this
> year no true equivalents ?  And if later 60s hemi cars are not still
> skyrocketing, maybe that is because they are maybe not as special as our
> earlier 300s - I know the few Coronets and Chargers late 60s I have driven
> and worked on often seem fairly characterless - maybe use-wise well built,
> but not masterpieces ?!! GM musclecar products like same year Chevelles 
> (and
> yes even good humble El Caminos?!!) seem way more fun/nicer to drive  !!? 
> So
> maybe there are still user/drivers amongst BJ buyers, and they are sorting
> the ones the like to drive better?
>
> My dad was a pretty good judge of cars, and generally the ones he liked,
> were the ones that were nicer to drive, had good performance, and had
> character, personality.  And that seems a pretty good thought to me - if 
> it
> looks nice, was well made, has nice steering/controls, and 'gets up and 
> goes
> a bit' when you stick your foot into it, then you shouldn't go too far
> wrong.
> If they/300s end up worth nothing, then we all can own more - but I don't
> think there is much long term chance of that being the long term
> trend/future.  And the other thing BJ shows/showed - the ones that pull 
> the
> higher prices - it is not how the car was built/made, rather it's 
> history -
> look up the Kurtiss 500 sale price - my guess because of it's long history
> with racer Mickey Thompson?  And the big dollar Boss 429 Mustang - was one
> of the early race type ones. And a bloody (common as?! once?! /still ) 57
> Chev Convertible I think made over $200k - because it supposed to be best 
> in
> the world condition wise. But that is a heck of a price/premium for a 57
> Chev?
>
> Final thought - BJ may be 'rogues', play tricks, whatever - but they have
> been 'king of the heap' for now near 3 decades - 30+ years.  OK some are
> going to get burnt, but hey, how many play the pokies, smoke 20+ 
> cigarettes
> a day, or many other things we know are bad for us/them. No one has to
> support them, give them cars to sell, whatever ??! Can't say I would like 
> to
> give them a car of mine though.
>
> Enough from the aussie - shoot me down, tell me to shut up, or whatever,
>
> Christopher
>
> ps nothing is worth what it is today, but then is that going to change
> quickly, never mind whinging about car prices/values?! - I think not.
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