Sorry, error in last e-mail. MSD CDI ignition! 6A Box (Not Mallory) From: Tony Rinaldi <awrdoc@xxxxxxxxx> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:42:51 -0400 To: Richard Osborne <richard@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, John Hertog <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, VICTOR KOONTZ <wikki123@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Chrysler 300 Club <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Conversation: [Chrysler300] 300F problems Pertronix Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 300F problems Pertronix To All, You all must be careful when sharing war stories about the Pertronix unit. Are you talking about the original one or the (improved?) Pertronix II, the upgraded model. John Hertog put the original Pertronix unit in my ³F² and the car ran horribly. He had my distributor re set up with dual points (calibrated by Don Verity) and the car ran well. If you take the switched power source from the ballast resistor, be sure to take it from the origin (before the resistor 12V side) and not after the resistor (6V side). Subsequently, I converted my car to Mallory CDI ignition with the points acting only as signaling devices. Had to redo wires with epoxy Mallory coil. Tony From: Richard Osborne <richard@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:richard%40zippynet.com> > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 05:44:22 -0500 To: "John J. Hertog" <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:crossram%40optonline.net> >, 'VICTOR KOONTZ' <wikki123@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:wikki123%40sbcglobal.net> >, <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 300F problems Pertronix John, I think something else is the issue here. There is NO dwell setting with the Pertronix upgrade. It is the absolute definition of plug and play. I added this to the white G last year. I had accidentally pulled some of the wires loose from the points while attempting a re-detail of the distributor. Rather than screw with setting the points back up, I called John Lazenby and ordered the Pertronix. The hardest part of the install was finding a good non-obvious power source. I suspect this is where the problem at hand lies. I no longer have the instructions, but it is very specific the power requirements. I spliced in around the ballast resistor, I'd have to look at which side, I can't remember right now. Once I had it installed, I was amazed as my car was no longer a turd, it performed great! The car had always run o.k., it just never had any balls. I feel it now has the power it should have had all along now. I do not mean to imply that this improvement is strictly because of the Pertronix (I think something was set incorrectly with the points), but I am very happy with it and have no interest in switching back to points as I plan to continue driving it a lot. Best regards, Richard Osborne >>> "John J. Hertog" <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:crossram%40optonline.net> <mailto:crossram%40optonline.net> > 03/15/07 11:07 pm >>> Hi Victor, Welcome to the Club and to the listserver. For the rest of the group, Victor owns a 300F hardtop restored by Tom Cox and then owned for a bit by Thomas Powers. Very nice black hardtop. Now on to your question - and a good question it is! I noticed the same dwell readings (I kind of tend to remember a lower number, though - like 18 degrees) when I installed a Pertronix on one or two of my 413 ram cars. And all I can say is that the car(s) never ran quite right with Pertronix. I ended up removing them, reinstalling the factory dual points, and everything was much better again. Also, what brand and model plug are you using? Comments, anyone? Vic, you may want to talk to Don Verity, at d.verity@xxxxxxx <mailto:d.verity%40cox.net> <mailto:d.verity%40cox.net> ; he's got a Sun distributor machine all set up and could fix up your distributor to spec. and bench- test it ... Original tires were 9.00- 14 Goodyear BlueStreak w. 2 1/2" whitewalls John Hertog Sag Harbor NY ----- Original Message----- From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of VICTOR KOONTZ Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 5:23 PM To: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: [Chrysler300] (unknown) I just got a 300F & the old owner said he had troublewith the car carboning the plugs within 3 to 4 weeks after replacing the plugs. I haven't had it long enough to experience that problem, but with the plugs so hard to remove etc. I don't want go through it. I did replace the plugs when I got the car because it wouldn't run. The car has a pertronix replacement of the dual points with a regular coil. I took a dwell reading & it was 22 degrees. Single points should read 27to34 degrees. Could this cause the fouling do to low saturation time ? Should I put in a pertronix high voltage coil ? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/0It09A/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/8LmulB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm For archives go to http://www.forwardlook.net/300-archive/ Yahoo! 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