This is to all members who may have a 6 volt hard starting early Chrysler. Be careful of running the starter for too long a period. I mean like just keeping the starter cranking and cranking until the engine finally catches. As you are turning over that starter, it is consuming watts (you know like the thing they rate light bulbs with ? volts times amps equals watts). The longer you crank that starter, the hotter it will get. Those carbon brushes are rubbing on the armature causing heat from the resistance between the carbon brushes and the steel plates in the armature. If you keep it up, it is possible to actually melt the solder out of the armature windings causing the armature circuit to either short closed or to open and not conduct electricity any more. I would recommend cranking for no more than a minute at a time and then let it sit for a minute or two to let the armature cool down before cranking it some more. Anyone else out there have any comments on my caution. My dad taught this to me long, long ago and it still makes sense to me today. I have also made my own battery and starter cables in the past. I once placed a battery in the trunk back in my drag racing days and ran cables back into the trunk. I went to the local welding supply shop and bought some 4/0 welding cable (over ¾ inch in diameter) and bought a swaging block to attach the attachment lugs onto the cables. You physically cannot get the copper in the cable hot enough to solder terminals onto it unless you dip the cable and lug assembly into a molten solder pot. Welding cable is made up of lots and lots of very fine wires that are woven and braided into a cable shape. These very fine, woven wires make the cable into a much more flexible cable and I believe it will carry more current as well. I have also used this technique on multiple standby batteries in my neighbors RV. Remember, when the Auto manufacturers went from 6 volt to 12 volt batteries and charging systems, the cable diameter shrunk significantly. I doubt however that the tech inspectors at our concourse meets would appreciate this as a solution. Anyway, just a caution on too much cranking on the starters. Big John Mc Adams (In SoCal) _____ From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Art Cragnotti Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 6:52 AM To: 300 Club Subject: [Chrysler300] slow starting 55 new yorker Hi Gang, Art here, In addition to my 300G I also have a newly restored '55 new yorker. It's a crapshoot whether it will start at ahy given time. The motor turns over very slowly like a weak battery, especially when hot. I still have the 6 volt system and have tried everything.rebuilt starter,new selanoid and relay and a new battery. I know these cars started better than this when new so why not now. Ary suggestions??. This is probably a common problem and I hope somebody has a solution. Thanks Art [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm For archives go to http://www.forwardlook.net/300-archive/ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:Chrysler300-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:Chrysler300-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Chrysler300-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/