Re: [Chrysler300] Re: 300D Headliners

["Bill Buechler" <billsolds@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hey John
I got a sample from SMS  a couple
Years ago ,almost exact. Have not done it yet because of the plastic strips.Sure wish Someone would repo. those.Bill Buechler 58D


----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John 
  To: Gloria Moon ; Chrysler 300 Club Intl 
  Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 9:12 AM
  Subject: [Chrysler300] Re: 300D Headliners


  Gloria & Group - 

  I wonder, given a good original sample, if a firm like SMS Auto Fabrics in Oregon could reproduce the 300-D headliner, given the following:

  I have only once seen this type of headliner in a photo - Could it be that HEAT, and not glue, was used to bond the materials together? If so, SMS has a dedicated machine they use to reproduce heat-sealed vinyl door panels. I'm pretty sure they could do a 3-piece headliner, since they can do the long door panels usually found on two-door hardtops.

  SMS did the heat-sealed design on the center seatbacks of my 1964 Newport convertible a few years ago, and the shape and size were accurate, since they had my tattered originals with which to work. On my D, the headliner was gone already, and I'd have to look through the boxes of parts to see if those plastic-coated metal strips that Gloria described are there.

  I don't have a place to start regarding the strips.

  300ly,
  John Spiers

  Gloria Moon <agmoon@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
  Hi John, 

  That's a C headliner, not the "luxury" cloth 300D headliner. And that brings us to the discussion of headliners in D's. I think that all the 300C type headliners found in D's were replacements by folks who tried cleaning the cloth ones. You can't clean them, only tear them. If there was a running change, it should be by VIN as was the custom of Chrysler to use up the stock from the previous year until it was gone. There does not appear to be any interior code number for headliners on the data plate.

  This headliner is impossible to find. If anyone knows of a glue I can use to create the pattern, I might be able to make one. I've found the board, padding and material. I know how it was sandwiched into its pattern by gluing or a heat bonding process which I wouldn't be able to recreate. Gluing the pattern on to the board, then pressing the 2 layers down will mimic how the factory did this. So what I need is a glue that can be applied in a thin line which will not spread out but will penetrate the 2 layers and still be strong enough not to let them droop. (I've seen headliners sewn to recreate the pattern - looks awful). 

  I have no idea how to refurbish the two plastic coated metal strips which run the length of the headliner boards and hold the 3 pieces together. Mine disintegrated when removed. Only metal left. If I get a headliner made, then I'll ask you all to go find some strips to attach them with. 

  300ly,
  Gloria Moon

  PS: This car looks familiar and may have been at a meet. See if you can get a VIN.


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John 
  To: Chrysler 300 Club Intl 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 7:47 PM
  Subject: [Chrysler300] Accuracy of 300-D restoration


  http://www.point-cars.com/300dgallery.html

  This car seems pretty darn nice. I wanted to get some of y'all's input as to how accurate a restoration this is, as I am restoring a white D coupe.

  I'm still learning all about the D, so I'm sure there are other items I don't know about. My purpose here is not to tear apart this pretty Tahitian Coral D, but to learn about what is and what is not accurate. I DO see the outline of a Chrysler 300 Club Int'l sticker in the lower center of the back window.

  Here's what I see that caught my eye:

  Painted armrest bases instead of chrome-finished
  Filled rocker-panel body seam below trailing ends of doors
  Windshield missing proper 'bubble' shape

  Thanks!
  300ly, John Spiers

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