[Chrysler300] one's thoughts re auction results on 300s values

[christopher beilby <thelastbestgenius@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Since no one else seems to have offered comment re the website question/thought that 300 values may be down, and maybe that where they may stay, here is a copy for 'all of those interested' of what I sent off earlier today.  And I add a further thought that when one gets to thinking of spending say $150-$200k on a car, is 'buying at Auction' the safest/smartest thing to do, 'the real test of real 300s values' ? - unless one gets the car way below $$$$$ other means of buying?!
 
Plus selling at auction 'sometimes' shows up risks re high dollar cars of not being 110% perfect re presentation, body panel fit etc. (Two 'maybe' examples (1) a finned 300 car that was put up few months back with blackwall tires - it went real cheap, and some on this site asked why did it go so cheap - whitewalls finish 300s, and most 50s early 60s era cars, without them they just look 'lessor' - 'lessor' can mean less bidders competing ?!  (2) the 300C convert just sold - on a car like a 300C-G, panel fit I believe is paramount.  Even if the viewer/buyer, does not realise he has noticed it, to those that know cars/values, a car with doors that don't correctly fit the body gaps, have too wide a gap, or stick out wider from quarter as they get nearer the rocker, often mean a car it is better to walk away from, certainly not a top dollar car unless problem easily fixed  ??
Wrong trim, chrome instead of painted aircleaners - whatever - are cheap easy fixes, but how much to fix a body/300 if the quarters say, have been welded on in the wrong place/angle/whatever??!  So if a 300 that should have maybe made near $170-200K doesn't, maybe it is not the buyers thought it too dear, rather they thought it not what they sought?
 
Other say their two bobs worth, but any (not yet realising?) 300 restorer should be warned, the most important pasrt of restoring any high dollar 300 is get panel fit right, especially the way the doors fit the rockers/quarters - you will be rewarded by a car you can admire, as well as untold other 300 and non 300 lovers?! 
300 values cannot be determined by sales at one or two auctions such as the one just held - they give guides or trends, but there are many factors at work, such as the couple I have just hinted at/about, and they may explain lower prices, rather than 300 values are headed down?
 
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From: thelastbestgenius@xxxxxxxxxxxxx: ronbo97@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: 300 auctions results from earlier today?!Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:57:52 +1000


>From afar, so aplogies if not near the mark, wrong?, but finned  Mopars/300s values are maybe not coming back? Over $200k for a 60 Plymouth Convert - even if a real one off re low miles etc that may be the only on the planet if you tried to find a twin re low miles etc - would have stunned many just a few years ago. And 300C converts have been pretty thin over auction blocks, and you maybe should discount the final price this one made, as it seemed to have shocking body door gap on one side shown, which although pretty easy to fix even by just running bead of weld on offending edges then grinding back and repainting, totally spoilt the car somewhat, and for sure would have meant a maybe 30+% final price discount!?  Anyhow if the new buyer is smart, that is what he can do in less than a week at most panel shops, to end up with a cheap 300C convert? OK the 300F/G era convert looked cheap (if one can say near $150k cost) is cheap !!!??  Easy to find a 300F 'cheap', than cheap gas nowadays sadly?!If any of you get the chance to drive other late 50s 'non 300s', my experience is they give nowhere the feeling, exhileration, power, handling, solidness, of the hemi and ram 300s, so values are never going to get real cheap - that is if future 300s are still driven, rather than become 'investments !??And obviously for me to be making this comment, I am again driving one of my properly sorted 300Cs after a few weeks poorer weather break, and it stuns me how a car over 50 years old can be pushed pretty hard in today's traffic, and still yet be the better of most all others around you.  May your US winter be soon allowing you US 300 owners to rediscover your 300s. Christopher in beautiful early autumn Australia


To: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; John@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: ronbo97@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 19:28:43 -0400Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Some auctions results from earlier today


Looks like prices are coming back down to earth. Except for that Plymouth,that is.Can you remember or point us to a website that shows what didn't sell andwhat the high bids were ?Ron----- Original Message ----- From: "John Lyons" <John@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 5:30 PMSubject: [Chrysler300] Some auctions results from earlier today> I was at the Wayne Davis sale today. Four letter cars and a Plymouth Fury> Sonoramic Commando sold.>> Prices:>> 1955 C300: $77,500 + commissions Show condition> 1957 300C convertible: $135,000+ commissions Strong driver quality toshow> condition> 1960 300F convertible: $155,000+ commissions. Show condition> 1961 300G Coupe $57,500+ commissions (did this one off memory...I did not> write it down for some reason. Driver quality)>> 1960 Plymouth Fury Sonoramic Commando: $230,000+ commissions Show> condition.>> John Lyons>>>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]>>> ------------------------------------>> To send a message to this group, send an email to:> Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> For list server instructions, go tohttp://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm>> For archives go to http://www.forwardlook.net/300-archive/Yahoo! GroupsLinks>>> 







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