RE: [Chrysler300] 1955 C-300 Sold on eBay

["Owen Grigg" <ram300@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Well, I own a factory 300C race car equipped with power seat, power windows,
power antenna and search tune radio! It was serious enough for the factory
to label it as a "race car" on the original track sheet found in the car and
verified by the original build sheet still stuck to the car as well as by
Gil's microfilm research.

Not everything is as it seems. 

 

Proof by documentation is the only way.

 

Owen

 

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From: christopher beilby [mailto:thelastbestgenius@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Saturday, 27 September 2008 12:20 p.m.
To: Owen Grigg; 'Dan Elliott'; lettercars@xxxxxxx; obiwan10@xxxxxxxxxxx;
chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; c300@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] 1955 C-300 Sold on eBay

 

And re the just sold '55 300, anyone who knows a bit about serious race
cars, you would think alarm bells would ring if someone tries to tell you a
supposed race car was ordered with full options such as a heavy power seat?!
Anyone who knows anything re racing, knows less weight and power driven
accessories is top of list re building any race car, and power seats in 300s
are pretty damn heavy, let alone on some models, need a different floor
where they mount?!!
 
Maybe if the car was one hurriedly bought from a used car lot, but I don't
think our '55 300 sellers were that creative re their listing for this
one??!

What is suprising, is that in current economic 'sort of meltdown', that many
cars are still strong - maybe people believe true collecxtor cars are better
than paper or gold?
 
Christopher's two bob's worth

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To: us@xxxxxxxxxx; lettercars@xxxxxxx; obiwan10@xxxxxxxxxxx;
chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; c300@xxxxxxx
From: ram300@xxxxxxxxxx
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 10:12:05 +1200
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] 1955 C-300 Sold on eBay



I'd just like to say a couple of things here, firstly how much I appreciate
both Dan and Gil's work to bring us factual history on early 300 racing.
Secondly I get the impression that some do not put any, or very little,
value on a cars history and having that history documented as correct. Well
maybe you should take a look at what makes the 300's the legend they are
today. It was the Kiekhaefer's, the Flock brothers, the Frank Mundy's, the
Buck Bakers, Daytona etc...
If we keep getting idiotic claims on particular cars race history and this
gets passed on down to future generations this in turn will distort the
pedigree of the whole 300 breed. They are special lets keep them that way.

No documentation, no cigar.

Owen

-----Original Message-----
From: Chrysler300@ <mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Chrysler300@ <mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> yahoogroups.com]
On
Behalf Of Dan Elliott
Sent: Friday, 26 September 2008 12:13 a.m.
To: lettercars@aol. <mailto:lettercars@xxxxxxx> com; obiwan10@comcast.
<mailto:obiwan10@xxxxxxxxxxx> net; chrysler300@
<mailto:chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> yahoogroups.com;
c300@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] 1955 C-300 Sold on eBay

Amen, Gil. Some of us have worked too hard on the real race history behind
the 55-56 300's
to have the truth as we've reasonably been able to put it together simply
washed
away in this kind of auction setting. The irony here is that one of the
important players
in RM auctions was the purchaser of the only remaining Kiekhaefer 300B from
the Kiekhaefer
estate. I presume he had nothing to do with the auction mentioned here.

Dan Elliott
www.300B.info

-----Original Message-----
From: Chrysler300@ <mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Chrysler300@ <mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of lettercars@aol. <mailto:lettercars@xxxxxxx> com
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 8:51 AM
To: obiwan10@comcast. <mailto:obiwan10@xxxxxxxxxxx> net; chrysler300@
<mailto:chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> yahoogroups.com; c300@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 1955 C-300 Sold on eBay

All:
The more expensive of the two C300s, 3N55 2283 ($181,500 worth!) MUST be
commented on. Almost everything stated about the car, except the fact it
is a
legitimate C300 and of fine quality, is untrue. It started out its life as
a
Platinum car, equipped with power steering, radio with rear speaker, a
heater, and a power seat. Certainly it had a clock, as they were standard.
The
statement about being equipped with steel wheels---ostensibly for
"racing"----rather than the more common wires is idiotic. Actually, the
great majority of
C300s were equipped with the standard steel wheels and wheel covers. The
car was delivered thru a dealer in that "hotbed" of NASCAR, Kansas. (At
least
RM said the NASCAR connection couldn't be confirmed with certainty.) No
kidding.
Apparently this car was "restored" to kind of mechanically duplicate C300s
#1 or #2 which competed at Daytona. Neither of those cars were red.
I think this is a great example of developing a "story" on a car that
gradually morphs into the "truth" if repeated enough times. Evidently
someone
thought the story was worth 180 or so thousand bucks---or at least if
repeated a
few more times----would be. Personally, I have no use for this nonsense.
300ly, Gil Cunningham
Tallahassee, FL
A perfect day here today!

In a message dated 9/16/2008 11:19:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
obiwan10@comcast. <mailto:obiwan10@xxxxxxxxxxx> net writes:

For those who may have missed the results of the RM Astor auction a few
weeks ago, check out the sale results on the pair of C 300's that sold.
The more
expensive one was a strong number 2 plus maybe even 1 car, the less
expensive one was a strong number 3. All opinions of course are
subjective.

http://www.rmauctio
<http://www.rmauctions.com/AuctionResults.cfm?SaleCode=AA08&SortBy=AL&View=N
o> ns.com/AuctionResults.cfm?SaleCode=AA08&SortBy=AL&View=No
rm
al&Category=Cars&Currency=#

Roger Schaaf

----- Original Message -----
From: RLS
To: chrysler300@ <mailto:chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> yahoogroups.com ; Rich
Barber
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 1955 C-300 Sold on eBay

I was the 2nd place 34 k bidder. As some wag once said: "2nd place is the
first loser". If I knew more about it I may have bid a bit more.

Roger Schaaf
----- Original Message -----
From: Rich Barber
To: chrysler300@ <mailto:chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 4:53 PM
Subject: [Chrysler300] 1955 C-300 Sold on eBay

Someone got a pretty nice C-300 on eBay for $35K. A last minute bid. Not
our bid or car.

See:

http://offer.
<http://offer.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=25029182158
7> ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=250291821587

C-300'ly,
Rich Barber
Brentwood, CA
1955 Chrysler C-300 (Hard to put a value on these puppies)

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