[Chrysler300] Re: let 300 Club readers decide an end to this

["James" <jdelrae1@xxxxxxx>]

Enough already Guy's.. I just like 300"s and all of the folks that love them.  Can't we all just get along ?  :)                         

--- In Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, christopher beilby <thelastbestgenius@...> wrote:
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> There are way better topics for this site than the issue I provide a most brief reply to. I have a Producer/friend I do some ongoing Script Editor work for on a big US Screenplay, and if I was getting paid for this now, I would be happier, never mind there are better 300 things for you all to read about than this.
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> Wayne Graefen has just posted his thoughts re me and my supercharged car.
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> And 3rd Party readers can perhaps decide for themselves.
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> 1)  I stated about Wayne's Road America 300C "the fact that it is not a 'standard 300C' is what maybe makes his so unique'.  Now I could have added detail of what the Factorty did that was non standard, plus added what Kiekhaefer did (which according to Wayne normally doesn't count for a hill of beans, because re 300s, only what was done at the Factory, is allowed?), but I assume most already know, and how much space do I take up.  I would have thought any normal reader would take me saying that, that I was saying the car was indeed special ??!!  Praising it. But seemingly not Wayne?!
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> 2) Wayne has just detailed how he knows of the history of my car - yet in all that space taken, not provided you/me one actual supporting detail re who/how/when he spoke to.  And this is just like when he told me he knew of the drag trophies the car won, but they don't count because they were not National ones. And so when I ask what trophies does he know of, he says he is not discussing it further.  I knew the car had supposedly won many, but then when Wayne seemingly confirms this, he refuses to say what he knows of the trophies!!  Why?!  
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> And so it goes, and worse yet - like when I ask questions on this Clubsite, some time ago, about the Mopar seat belts in the car, and Wayne says they are wrong, despite ex Chrysler Factory employee saying off list they do indeed carry the correct 1957 part numbers?!
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> And ignoring any 'Wayne claimed dispute' re my supercharged car, when I submit  questions/observations that might add to normal everday 300C Authenticy knowledge to Wayne as 300C Club Expert, zero reply?!  Wayne does not help matters by saying things, and then refusing to show he is correct - if you say you know something because, tell what the 'because' is?!
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> 3) The Flying Mile supercharged 300C.  All I have ever believed true for fairly sure is that the car was ordered with the specific intent it be run supercharged at 1957 Daytona Flying Mile.  It was specifically ordered with manual steering, which owner claimed was initially a problenm for Chrysler. They could not solve motor running too lean in the just few weeks between beginning of 300C production and Daytona, took the car anyway, and as Wayne verifies (I think?!), the owner said they locked the motor at 1st time trap at beginning of 2nd required run at 147mph. Cunningham offered to set motor up on his dyno, and the car was then only ran at Eastern States Drags, supposedly never beaten.
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> As part of ther handwritten history, the original owner stated Chrysler started the supercharger installation, it finished by the Dealer and them.  For all his words used, Wayne has yet to prove any one part of what I have just stated is wrong.  And saying there is no Chrysler documentation re supercharger bit started at Factory, it seems that there are a number of 1960 300Fs that there likewise is "no documentation" that Chrysler removed the microfish recorded long ram motors and trans and then fitted the motors and 4 speeds they left the Factory with?!  So if this is true, how come these 300Fs are not regarded by Wayne the same as my supercharged car, when there is seemingly no proof Chrysler did not start the supercharger installation?!
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> Wayne seemingly does not dispute the Cunningham involvement - (even if somewhat dismissive - like Cunningham nearly won World's highly regarded 24 hr Le Mans, raced hemis, is perhaps better known world wide than Kiekhaefer, this before how many other supercharged new 300s did he work on?!) -, plus from recent reply from Club Microfish holder Gil Cunningham, at the time the car was built, there seemingly was a problem re some 300Cs supposed to be built/ordered with manual steering, that left as power steer cars, and the microfish altered by hand to show they/some did not leave with the ordered manual sterring.  So instead of me learning parts of the handwritten 3 page history of the car are wrong, they end up being confirmed - by Wayne saying he knows of Trophies it won, plus Cunningham involvement, and the microfish saying there maybe was some problem re Chrysler building manual steer 300Cs built Dec 1956?! And then the supercharger turns out to be the only known 1 of 2 built in that spec - more hint of special one off parts?!  And then it has the supposed never released large throat 300C Aircleaner.  As a likely bored reader, you decide if this is just some home bastardised worthless heap?!  And still has Original factory number block, rare factory seat belts, original seat leather, 4 seemingly now rare original Oriflow shocks, mileage 56K, etc, etc.
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> Anyhow all that is irrelevant for now - I have a 300C that was odered to be supercharged new, ran Daytona in the same special PURE OIL sponsored non Factory Class that Wally Parkes who later headed the NHRA won.  Briggs Cunningham, seemingly at Daytona 1957, there offered to set the motor up, usingg his dyno, did so, stated he believed it was producing about 550bhp. And the car was occassionally run at local Drags for some time after. Not sold until late 70s
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> By now totally bored 300 readers can decide if what I have stated is all lies, and also as Wayne seems to feel, because as Wayne says the car was in so poor condition (obviously a 'Wayne mandatory' death sentence for sending all such 300s to the crusher!!?), anyone who saved it was a fool/whatever??!
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> The picture of the car as I bought it are up on the Club site - home page, go to stories, bottom right.  You decide if the car is so bastardised/unoriginal/whatever, that it should not have been saved??! 
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> I own the car, do not care what others think of it. However if someone wants to say it is so bad, valueless, then I will ask them to provide proof of what they claim.  And then when they seemingly just prefer to say nothing other than I am too hard to deal with, I will ask is that double standards?
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> 300s should I believe be about enjoying them all whatever. No 300 is worth saying 'mine is better than yours' - anyone who choses to save any 300, enjoy it, is to be congratulated.
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> I have no problem. ill thoughts, re Wayne, other than if he wishes to say I am wrong, or my car is not what I believe, and then refuses to supply detail that establishes his position. Wayne has done the Club a great service is producing his 300C Guide, many other things for the Club. I would like to think/hope we get this matter sorted/buried.
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> Christopher Australia - and rego data just released stated over 1000 current new 300Cs sold in Australia last year, in total annual volume of 1 million. That impressed me, you very rarely see them, and my guess would have been only a few hundred, so there are a few that support them here.  Weather, showery the last few days - weird year to date, from bushfires to near early winter in a week.
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