Hi, Gloria: Thanks for the info. I use NuFinish on my black HHR SS daily driver (and my not-so-black Mopars). No swirls to deal with, even in direct sunlight. Lasts about one year. I use McGuire's detailing concoction to refresh the shine. Always lookin' good. Best, Ron Kurtz E #292 ________________________________ From: Gloria Moon <agmoon@xxxxxxxxx> To: 300-Chrysler 300 Club <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Mon, July 18, 2011 6:31:02 PM Subject: [Chrysler300] Silicone Waxes. Bad stuff? Turtle Black Box System "Carnauba blend"??? Hi all, 1. We understand from more than 1 bodyman that one should not use waxes that have silicone in them. Reason is (at least in part) body shops have real problems in painting these cars, especially when trying to blend in a spot area. Seems that they cannot get out the silicone that has penetrated into the paint and silicone does bad things to new paint, like Armorall type products do. TRUE? 2. As we recall, Turtle was one of the first to go to silicone waxes. Does anybody know if Turtle "Black Box" 3 step wax system contains any silicone? It is called a "Carnauba blend" wax - what ever that means. Carnauba blended with what? Mother's is pure Carnauba. We've asked Turtle Wax customer service about this by phone only to be told that they don't know but they will have the government required Specs. sheet on their "Black Box" product e-mailed to us "right away" . So far (you guessed it) no e-mail! Thanks for anything that any of you might know on the subject. Our Best, Happy 300ing. A&G Moon [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or go to http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/join and select the "Leave Group" button For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm For archives go to http://www.forwardlook.net/300-archive/search.htm#querylangYahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: Chrysler300-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Chrysler300-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Chrysler300-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/