Re: [Chrysler300] Shocks - Koni
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Re: [Chrysler300] Shocks - Koni



All:
I put a set of Konis on my 300C in the late 60's.  They sure did hold  that 
heavy hemi front end in place!  As I recall, they were able to be set  for 
desired stiffness by rotating one half relative to the other.  I chose  a 
medium setting.  They are still on the car, which I am sorry to  say I haven't 
driven in >40 years.  Bet they would really control  the suspension now!!
300ly, Gil Cunningham
 
 
In a message dated 7/22/2011 10:02:42 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
spiers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:

To  continue forward with this discussion about shock absorbers at the 300 
Club  
listserver:


Koni once made front and rear shocks to fit our  cars.

I recall having read a thread on the Imperial Club's website. I  found it, 
and 
here it is, complete with misspellings:


Tip from  Philippe:
Just a little story about shock   absorbers, I think  that it could help 
you and 
the Imperial owners.  Last    year I bought a 57 wrecked Crown (no glasses, 
rust 
everywhere,  transmission «   out »). This car was neglected since 1966 so 
all  
the parts on it were never   replaced with aftermarket parts !  Except one 
thing 
: the shock absorbers!   Maybe the original «  Oriflow » weren't as strong 
as 
Chrysler said! I was   very  surprised when I removed the shocks : they 
aren't « 
made in Brazil  or   Mexico » as actual sold by K....R or B......M. There 
are  
KONI shocks, a very   reliable & famous make (more expensive  also). But I 
don't 
know if Koni   make them always. Summit has  Koni shocks on his catalog.  I 
give 
you the   reference (as  they are the same from 57 to 65) : Front : 80 C 
1229 
Rear : 82    1066 Date of manufacturing : 11/64 If they are always 
manufactured, 
buy  them   and don't buy $80.00 for four : I bought 4 gaz charged  
absorbers 
(from kanter)   : after one year, one was leaking and  one was jamed ! 
Mexico 
made ...
>>Follow-up   from  Dietmar:
>>>You are right- KONI is   the worlds best  qualitiy shock absorbers for 
street and 
>>>race cars. They  will   serve You a 100 000 miles without any complain. 
I use  
>>>them on my IMP 60 so   this havy car dont swim nor  incline in the 
curve, I use 
>>>KONI an all sports car    I  have.
>>>
>>>
>>>---
>>>

So  I sent an email to Koni North America, inquiring about the above 
mentioned  
part numbers. Here is the reply:


From: "Mclaughlin, Paul   - ITT Motion Technologies" 
<Paul.Mclaughlin@xxxxxxx> 
To:  "spiers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <spiers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>


Haven't had  those part#'s for years... I think u have to buy 50 cars sets 
each 
to get  run made in Holland.

Paul McLaughlin
Koni Shock Absorbers
ITT  Corporation
Racing Technical Sales Rep.
1961A International  Way
Hebron, Ky. 41048
800-922-2616 option 6

---

I checked  on prices of Koni shocks. They are much more than the KYBs - for 
example,  on Koni's website, a pair of front shocks for a 1970 Dodge 
Challenger  
lists for $320/pair (online price, $240) and the rear pair list for $380  
(online 
price, $285).  And they do go for upwards of $500/pair in  some cases.

To make the minimum order, I think it would be difficult to  convince a 
total of 
50 people worldwide, between both 300 clubs, the  Imperial Club, both 
Christine 
clubs, and all the members of the  Forwardlook list, to drop $600 on a set 
of 
Koni shocks, when there are  discussions of the KYBs being far too 
expensive at 
over $100/set .   .  . and I wouldn't drive another one of these cars 
without at 
least  KYBs on it.   The difference, to you who don't know, is like AM  
radio 
versus satellite radio. 


I personally would buy at least  2 sets of the Konis, after experiencing 
the  
profound difference of  KYBs, and knowing the Konis are another quantum 
leap 
forward - I've only  run them 65,000 miles on one car I've owned (a '62 
Morgan 
+4) and was very  impressed. One important and interesting feature of the 
Konis, 
is that  they are adjustable for firmness/softness in their rebound action. 
 
http://www.koni-na.com/comp.cfm


Cheers,

John  Spiers




________________________________
From: Bill Huff  <czbill@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: Michael Moore <mmoore8425@xxxxxxx>;  Tony Bevacqua 
<tonysru2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Marshall Larson  <granitledge@xxxxxxxxx>; Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thu, July  21, 2011 9:27:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Shocks.


There are some H.D. choices out there.  Not many cheap one  though.

http://www.amazon.com/Bilstein-Heavy-Duty-Shock-Absorber/dp/B001HIAMWU/ref=a
u_pf_pfg_s?ie=UTF8&Model=300%7C2489&n=15684181&s=automotive&Make=Chrysler%7C
39&Year=1970%7C1970&newCar=1&carId=001


Bill  Huff

At 7/21/201111:58 AM, Michael Moore wrote:
>I installed  those on my 300H and was grateful to get them.
>I wish they were stiffer  though.
>Its almost as though there are no shocks on the car, but  insofar as 
>I know, that's all thats available.I wish Koni made a set  to fit.
>Mike Moore
>300H
>
>
>On Jul 21, 2011,  at 8:41 AM, Tony Bevacqua wrote:
>
> > KYB shocks. KG4507 and  KG 5511 are the correct ones. I just made a
> > purchase for my 57  (shocks are correct for 1957 to 1964, I believe).
> > $116.32 for the  4 shocks, plus handling, etc.
> > Tony
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
On
> > Behalf Of Marshall  Larson
> > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 8:26 AM
> > To:  Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [Chrysler300]  Shocks.
> >
> > Any suggestions for an appropriate brand and  model of shocks for a G. I
> > don't need anything exotic, just  proper ride and to deal with the 
radials
> > that are on the car. All  suggestions appreciated.
> >
> > MN Marshall
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