Greetings- Yes, this subject is getting tired, but instead of deleting or moaning you may actually want to read this as this relates to letter cars which, after all, is the real reason for the listserver, and it wasn't clear to me that the latest thread actually ever got focused on letter cars. I am no transmission expert, but George Riehl is (or was) and he wrote an excellent article for the NewsFlite about 10 or 15 years ago on letter car transmissions. For those newer to the club, here is what George had to say about letter car transmissions: 1) "There were many internal differences for the 300 (letter car) transmissions and it gets very involved. Front and rear clutch packs have more friction discs. Front cushion spring is eliminated, kick down lever is of a different ratio, rear clutch spring is different, accumulator spring is eliminated, line pressures are higher, clutch pack clearances are closer, band adjustments are tighter and governor weights and springs are different." 2) "The fluid to use in these transmissions (letter cars) is type F or FA. I prefer type F when available. Type "A" suffix "A" should not be used and is fortunately not readily available. Do not use Mercon or Dexron, as they will result in early transmission failure. Chrysler put out a special tech bulletin to technicians to use Type F, even in the A833 4-speed transmissions." It would be interesting if someone could dig up that tech bulletin and see exactly when it was issued and to what transmissions it applies to. Of note, after Dexron was introduced Chrysler began using it as the factory transmission fill for both TorqueFlite and the A-833 4-speed. From the 1975 chassis service manual, page 0-27: "Use only fluids of the type labeled DEXRON Automatic Transmission Fluid such as MOPAR DEXRON Automatic Transmission Fluid, Part Number 3549660, or equivalent." Of course, this was long after letter cars and their modified high performance transmissions. I assume, therefore, the real need for type F is both for firm shifts and the so the modified higher performance letter car transmissions do not fail prematurely. Carl Bilter [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or go to http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/join and select the "Leave Group" button For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm For archives go to http://www.forwardlook.net/300-archive/search.htm#querylangYahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: Chrysler300-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Chrysler300-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Chrysler300-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/