I think they balance governor pressure against line pressure modulated by throttle position , so , although not sure of this and Don can correct , higher line pressure means you need higher governor pressure to shift up at WOT ? Reason I remember is I used J weights / governor in 727 and a shift kit (raise line pressure) and it would not shift till 6500 plus , throwing all the belts . Damaged radiator and fan several times ; 1-2 shift over100 ! Wild ride but wrong . Lesson : leave 300 alone ,they knew their stuff !! So PF raised pressure raised upshifts enough, heavier spring adds torque capacity ; throttle linkage very often badly adjusted due to theories about it . Set up exactly per book . Smile. Best , John On Nov 10, 2013, at 5:29 PM, RICK AND DEBBIE CLAPHAM < rixpac@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Not to confuse any one.. The Power Flite transmission has one clutch pack containing 6 or 7 friction or clutches.
To: d.verity@xxxxxxx; flathead323@xxxxxxxxx; Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxFrom: c300@xxxxxxxDate: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 11:26:19 -0800 Subject: [Chrysler300] Powerflite transmissions
I have read that there are seven clutch packs in the PowerFlites in the 300’s vs. six in the NY’s & Imp’s.
Rich
From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don Verity Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 7:01 AM To: 'Narve Nordanger'; '300 Group' Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Wire wheels caps and Powerflite transmissions
I have to agree about the adjustment of the throttle linkage probably being off. The only differences between the regular New Yorker/Imperial trans and the 300 trans is a slightly higher line pressure (95-105 verses 85-95) and a different direct clutch spring according to the 56 manual I have. Both were to give increased load capacity, and were not related to up shift speed. 55 is likely the same or very close. I doubt either of these parts are easily found. The 56 book lists wide open throttle up shift at 55-65 mph. I would check the throttle linkage adjustments and line pressure first, and then check the valve body itself to see if something was not put together correctly in the rebuild.
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 9:45 PM
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Wire wheels caps and Powerflite transmissions
Narve:
I’m no expert on the ’55 PowerFlite, but some combination of internal or external adjustments must control that shift point. Until you get those fine-tuned, I’d suggest you lower the dagger on the dash to L for Lunge.
Member Don Verity advertises service on PowerFlites as #21 here: http://www.chrysler300club.com/rcmstuff/partsforsale.html
Fun with numbers: 5,200 RPM, 3.54 axle, 29” OD tires>126.7 MPH—close to its record speed in 1955. With a 1.72 low gear ratio, the Brute ought to do about 73.7 MPH @ 5,200 RPM. That would be screaming but seems to provide a reasonably-high passing gear. 55 MPH in low would be 3,880 RPM –all numbers assume 0% slippage in the torque converter. I’d expect that slippage to be on the order of 5% at maximum RPM.
I hope you get a few more warm days to enjoy the ride with fewest possible annoyances.
C-300’ly,
Rich Barber
Warm and (too) dry in Brentwood, CA
Rich thanks for the tip, I’ll give that a try. The C-300 is at hand if weather should turn fair for a short day, in the meantime I am dealing with annoying issues like this one which the car has more than enough of.
Another issue:
George Riehl used to advertise that he could 300-ify your transmission if the original had been replaced at some earlier stage with a standard one. The opposite has apparently happened to my transmission, when it would previously hang out in 1st to at least 50 mph now after a rebuild that number is only 35 mph and highly unsatisfactory when using the car in the spirit of George. Is there anyone currently doing the 300-ifying of transmissions that could e.g. rebuild a standard Powerflite to correct 300-spec? My idea would be to get hold of the trans in the US and ship it to Norway after the rebuild.
C-300ly
Narve with #3N551161
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