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The 300-D section now reads:

300 D (1958)

 

The 392 Hemi carried over from 1957, as did the majority of styling. The engine did receive another horsepower bump in standard trim, to 380HP. This was accomplished through 10.0:1 compression, new valve timing, new camshaft, and heavier pistons. Available for the first time for Chrysler Corporation cars, was electronic fuel injection, which added another 10 horses to the base motor. This system proved unreliable however, and most of the 35 cars that Chrysler Corporation built across all its models that were produced with it were recalled and fitted with carburetors. Performance was still world class, demonstrated when a 300 D was driven to a new Class E record of 156.387 at the Bonneville Salt Flats, and at Daytona, one was driven to an et of 16 seconds with a 94mph trap speed. But production was down, and the Hemi would disappear. The carbureted engine 300-Ds received the 3-speed automatic and two are known to have had manual transmissions. The fuel-injected 300-Ds all received 3-speed automatic transmissions. Unfortunately, electronic fuel injection wasn’t a great idea in an era when vacuum tubes were being transitioned out in favor of early solid state components in the electronics world, and most of the 21 or so cars 300-D cars equipped with the solid state Bendix system were recalled and retrofitted with dual four-barrel carburetors.

Production: 618 Coupes; 191 Convertibles


From: Gil Cunningham <lettercars@xxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, Mar 8, 14 at Sat, Mar 8 - 6:52 PM
To: Anthony Rinaldi <awrdoc@xxxxxxxxx>, Anthony Rinaldi <awrdoc@xxxxxxx>, Jim Bartuska <BARJAM300@xxxxxxx>
Cc: Chrysler 300 Club <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Reply Diamond Jubilee 300 Circus-History

The figure of 21 FI 300Ds was derived from counting the number of cars on the microfilm which were coded for the electronic FI. 
On another point, the reference to vacuum tubes sort of implys that the EFI units used them.  Of course, they did NOT.  All electronics in the FI system were solid state.   Gil C.
 
In a message dated 3/8/2014 1:25:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, awrdoc@xxxxxxxxx writes:


Hi,

First changes:

300-E- Leather sentences now reads:
The big news for the 300 E was the introduction of the new �8226;˛Golden Lion�8226;ˇ V8 that replaced the tried and true Hemi.
Inside the car, swivel front seats were standard, finished in �8226;ˇLiving Breathable Leather�8226;ˇ upholstery that was perforated with fine holes and embossed in a basket weave pattern. 

300-D- Re FI now reads.

The carbureted engine received the 3-speed automatic and two 300-Ds are known to have had manual transmissions, while fuel injected cars all received a 3-speed automatic transmissions. 
Available for the first time for Chrysler Corporation cars, was electronic fuel injection, which added another 10 horses to the base motor. This system proved unreliable however, and most of the 35 cars that Chrysler Corporation built across all its models that were produced with it were recalled and fitted with carburetors. Performance was still world class, demonstrated when a 300 D was driven to a new Class E record of 156.387 at the Bonneville Salt Flats, and at Daytona, one was driven to an et of 16 seconds with a 94mph trap speed. But production was down, and the Hemi would disappear. The carbureted engine received the 3-speed automatic, while fuel injected cars received a 3-speed manual transmission. Unfortunately, electronic fuel injection wasn�8226;˙t a great idea in an era when vacuum tubes still ruled the electronics world, and most of the 21 or so 300-D cars equipped with the Bendix system were recalled and retrofitted with dual four-barrel carburetors.

Andy Mikonis quotes an article by G. Moon in 1988 that says there were 21 fuel injected Ds.

Please advise if this gets it right?


Tony Rinaldi


From: Anthony Rinaldi <awrdoc@xxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, Mar 8, 14 at Sat, Mar 8 - 11:28 AM
To: Anthony Rinaldi <awrdoc@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Fwd: [Chrysler300] Reply Diamond Jubilee 300 Circus-History



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From: Gloria Moon <agmoon@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: March 8, 2014 at 11:27:20 AM EST
To: BARJAM300@xxxxxxx, Anthony Rinaldi <awrdoc@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Reply Diamond Jubilee 300 Circus-History

I'm including Tony.  The numbers are good because the 35 refers to all the Chrysler-Dodge-DeSoto lines.  The 16 is the 300 line.  Gil wrote some articles on this and its somewhere in our archives.  So ask Gil for definitive answers.  He's the man.
G
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Reply Diamond Jubilee 300 Circus-History

Gloria,
 
You are Correct.  I just skipped over that when I read it. In the first sentence where it says 35 were built (the correct "accepted" number), it says "most" were recalled. How the qty of 16 got in the last sentence is beyond me. I pointed that out to Tony.
 
Jim B 
 
In a message dated 2014/03/08 11:01:50 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, agmoon@xxxxxxxxx writes:
 

About the 300D,
The carbureted engine received the 3-speed automatic, while fuel injected cars received a 3-speed manual transmission. Unfortunately, electronic fuel injection wasnâ�8226;��#729;t a great idea in an era when vacuum tubes still ruled the electronics world, and the 16 or so cars equipped with the Bendix system were recalled and retrofitted with carburetors.
 
The statement that the fuelie cars all received 3-speed manual transmissions is incorrect.  Only 2 manual transmissioned Ds are known to me and neither is fuel injected.  All the fuel injected cars I've seen have the Torqueflite 3-speed automatic.
 
Not all the 300Ds were retrofitted with carbs.  We know of one that was not.  So while they may have been notified of a recall, not all the owners may have complied.  (A lot like today's cars.)
 
We have an out-of-date folded brochure with a brief explanation of the club and the cars.  Dave Schwandt was the last to update it and it needs it again.  We should have them for handouts using Dave's neat holder.
Gloria Moon
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 9:42 AM
Subject: [Chrysler300] Diamond Jubilee 300 Circus-History

 

Hi To All,

The effort that members contributed to the short histories for the Diamond Jubilee Big Top Tent car placards is in the process of being used to update the 300 Club Intâ�8226;��#729;l website by Bob Merritt.

The table of facts and the descriptive text is undergoing one last review by the perspective letter year consultants.

Noel Hastalis has agreed to comple te a detailed spec sheet that will be used as a poster.

That leaves the full history of the Chrysler 300 from inception through todayâ�8226;��#729;s offering. This info will be printed on a 4 ft. tall poster.

Please help us by reviewing the text.

Please download it, review it and edit away with any changes you feel will accurately portray the history of the 300 Marque.

Suggested changes can be e-mailed. OR the document is set up to tract changes (deletions wil l be strike thrus and additions will show up on the side.)

Make your suggested changes and add your initials to the document's name and e-mail it.

The description of the current offerings is weak. Not sure if there will be a model change by 2015?

Looking forward to your assistance & input.

Tony Rinaldi,
Mark Souders,
Tony Bevacqua

 


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