Re: [Chrysler300] Goodyear Blue Streak tire
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Re: [Chrysler300] Goodyear Blue Streak tire





Agree - buy 5 - the way things are going, you might not be able to buy another a year from now if you do have a problem. Especially when you can get a set of 5 for less than the price of 2 Coker or American Classics.

Six years ago there were plenty of 225/75R14 whitewalls - then they all went away within a year.

Two years ago there were more than half a dozen 215/75R14 whitewalls (Hankook H714 - discontinued - replaced by H724; Firestone FR380 - extinct; Cooper Lifeliner, Cooper Trendsetter SE + Mastercraft / ElDorado / Multi-Mile, etc variations - extinct; Dunlop SP40 - extinct; Toyo Extensa AS - now Blackwall only; Michelin XW4 was blackwall only - now extinct). Now of that group only Hankook H724 survives. Kingstar (made by Hankook) was introduced in 2002, but may not be readily avail in US.

225/70R14 worse still - Hankook has discontinued the H714 and the H725 that were available in Narrow White - can't find any whitewalls still being made and many of the Blackwalls and Raised White Letters that were available in 2011 are gone too.

For the same reason, I buy a spare and skip the replacement warranty if its extra cost.

On 3/19/2014 8:11 AM, Mark Lindahl wrote:
 
Hi All,

I bought the Hankook tires and I am very pleased with them.  One suggestion - Do yourself a favor and buy 5 matching tires.  They are really inexpensive and having a matching spare allows for 5 tire rotation (like the good old days) and also gives you some insurance in case one of the tires gets damaged beyond repair.  

Regards,
Mark Lindahl
'63 300 Conv.


From: Edward Mills Antique Tractors <millserat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Rich Barber <c300@xxxxxxx>; 'Paul Holmgren' <paulholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; 'Chrysler300' <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 7:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Goodyear Blue Streak tire

 
They don't look that bad - yes maybe a bit small if you look close, but I have found the Hankook H724s to be about all that is left. And they are sturdy - not thin / flimsy like a couple of Chinese made tires I looked at last year and they seem to perform well and be reasonably priced. Discount Tire Direct had a rebate sale on eBay that ended Sunday - also available at reasonable prices from Amazon, Walmart, Sears, and many non-specific local tire outlets.

On 3/18/2014 7:38 PM, Rich Barber wrote:
Amen to the unavailability of a nice, safe, P225/75R14 tire with a good reputation and at a reasonable price.  I’ve spent too many hours searching.
 
I put a set of the Hankook’s described below from America’s Tire on our ’64 300K conv.  They were reasonably priced, made by our friends in South Korea, ride fine, have near to the OEM WSW width but do look just a little undersized if one is studying that.  Pictures are attached and available to others on request.  I had to get new tires on the car and see this as biding time, safely and at a reasonable cost ($345.78 for four-last may!)
 
On the Blue Streak subject, I purchased a great pair of 8.00 x 15 Blue Streaks from a member, knowing the 1” WSW was not correct for our ’55 C-300 and the size was not correct for the H or J.  7.60 x 15’s seem a little wimpy on the H & J after seeing up to 9.00’s on previous 300’s.
 
I bought the Blue Streaks to study their markings and dimensions.  I have not been able to determine any vehicle that was originally equipped with 8.00 x 15’s with the 1” WSW.  It appears they were the updated style of WSW for the exact size replacement on earlier cars.  Lucas says they sell a lot of 8.00x15’s to Caddy owners.  Lucas did market a General Dual 90 with 3” WSW in 8.00x15, but it seems to have disappeared from their catalog.
 
BTW, our ’55 C-300 turned 59 yesterday, on St. Patrick’s day—at least by the SO of 0317.  The big six-oh is coming up fast
 
 
C300K’ly,
Rich Barber
Brentwood, CA
 
From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Edward Mills Antique Tractors
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 3:38 PM
To: Paul Holmgren; 'Chrysler300'
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Goodyear Blue Streak tire
 
 
Nothing really out there in big 14's other than Bias Reproductions, Coker or American Classics - period - end of sentence!!!!!

Biggest current "production" grade tire is Hankook H724 in P215/75R14 Narrow Whitewall. Its a good tire and may have the load capacity at 1664 lbs max but its small at 26.7" OD and radials sit low anyway.

The typical 8.50/8.55-14 was 28.2 to 28.3" OD and was rated at 1265 lb at 24 psi. Supposedly typical was to add at least 4psi for more than 3 passengers or high (70 mph) speed. But no one I know ran that low - more like 30-32 psi.

The typical 9.00/8.85-14 was 28.7 to 28.8" OD and was rated at 1355 lb at 24 psi.

American Classic P235/75R14 shows 27.87" OD which is still small OD with a max load of 1930 psi

Best diameter match (sacrilege) is to go with a P225/75R15 (typical 28.3" OD) or a P235/75R15 (typical 28.9" OD).


On 3/18/2014 4:04 PM, Paul Holmgren wrote:
 
From: John Grady <jkg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: 'MARK HOPKINS' <m.hopkins@xxxxxxx>; 'retromobilia' <retromobilia@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: 'Chrysler300' <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; 'Michael Moore' <mmoore8425@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 2:00 PM
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Goodyear Blue Streak tire

Remember Atlas Bukies? (Bucron) they were really good in that time frame for street drag racing. Not sure what they were,  construction wise, but they really grabbed the street; Blue Steaks were thought of as Cadillac tires, as in big hat no cattle, but also known for top end safety, as in 300 letter car . big $ back then, seldom seen on street drag cars...

Rob Kern had posted about American Classics being the best bet for 14" tires...as on Nov of 2013.  After a bad trip with Cokers.

Any comments on that? looking to buy a set for 300c and 300f



AH, Atlas Bucrons, I remember those well and fondly.
Somewhere somehow I ended up with a pair of 9.00x14 Bucrons back
in the mid 70's after I rebuilt the motor in my 300 C.
Around my area we knew them as real nice 'cheater slicks'
 
Excellent traction, real grip. Really made a difference on a superb dragstrip
surface.   (Indy Raceway Park)   :-)

About 1976 my racing partner and I ended up working behind the scenes
at the US Nationals to raise some racing $$. One of the big car teams left
behind some liquid traction compound. WE 'played' with it a little at home
one day. At the time my buddy was driving a 57 Nomad that we installed
a fresh (shade tree job) motor in. We ended up with a manual tranny in it,
hydrolic clutch too.
He splashed some of that stuff under the tires and tried it out on the
street. We were not allowed to use the stuff in the class we were racing.

So, a voice was heard to say, let a real car try that!

I had the Bucrons on the back of my 300C and between those and the traction
compound stuff I really laid down some marks. A Full trip around the block and
the tires were still picking up all the loose pebbles on the road.
  
Paul Holmgren
2 57 300-C's in Indy
CPUs run on smoke. I know this because when the smoke comes out, it stops working.
 
 






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