Re: [Chrysler300] Oil

1600ppm of ZDDP, is not just zinc. This I believe, referees to the complete set of additives, zinc, phosphates and moly components. the amount of Zinc may be 800ppm. I think if we put 1600ppm of zinc alone it may damage the metal components of the engine. Shal we clearify this for those who do not understand this.

Anyone with any ideas about this factor?

What the oil companies do not provide are all the additives used (proprietary info?), so it is hard to make a judgement. and it is imprudent to use our engine as a testing parameter.

Sometimes, I think for the low milage we use our cars; the old fashion single weight low detergent oil change twice a year (needing it or not) would be the best thing and I know the engine likes it.

Any comments on this as well would be interesting. Does anyone do this??

John

From: "Rich Barber" <c300@xxxxxxx>
To: "MARK HOPKINS" <m.hopkins@xxxxxxx>, kboonstra@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: "Terry Mctaggart" <terrymct999@xxxxxxxxx>, "Listserver Chrysler Club" <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 5:55:59 PM
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Oil

I feel it is important to repeat a previously-published fact that the zinc concentration goes down with engine hours as the zinc compounds plate out on internal engine surfaces. Even if one does not change the oil, adding another slug every year might make sense. The 1,600 ppm is a starting point designed to offer protection (assumedly) for the “life” of the oil change in normal operation.

Facts of life for automotive fluids: Oil and antifreeze don’t wear out but their additive/inhibitor packages do. Stationary engines as well as aircraft, railroad engine and over-the-road truck operators monitor fluid properties and add inhibitors/additives as needed or drain, flush and refill if and when needed. Fluids are also monitored for corrosion or wear materials and can provide critical information on wear or corrosion. The technology is proven but not yet offered to Chrysler 300 owners as it is more desirable from the vendor’s standpoint to just drain, dump and refill. An awful lot of used oil and antifreeze goes down the tube each year. Both can be recycled.

C300K’ly,

Rich Barber

From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of MARK HOPKINS
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 3:50 PM
To: kboonstra@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Terry Mctaggart; Listserver Chrysler Club
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Oil

Hi Keith - great question for everyone in the US. When you click on the Hemmings link in your email, next click on one of the oil bottles, and a product description comes up. In each type of Hemmings Oil, the zinc content is 1627 parts per million, which is what our old cars need. Scroll down a bit, and it says the oils are manufactured for Hemmings by Champion Brands LLC in Clinton, Missouri. Nice - a product that isn't made in China, but I digress...

The Champion Brands website is www.championbrands.com . They market the same oils under their name: Champion Classic / Muscle High Performance Motor Oil. Click on "Classic / Muscle Car Oils" near the top of their Home page, then click the tab with the same title, and their classic car oils come up. The product descriptions are identical to the Hemmings decriptions, with zinc content at 1627 PPM. On the Home page, also click the "Where to Buy" tab at the top, and then "Online Retailers", and a whole list of auto stores comes up. Some are online, but several have retail stores as well. Most US members can probably find the oil they need in their own back yards.

Mark