RE: [Chrysler300] Brake shoe retainer/hold down spring - G

["'David Schwandt' finsruskw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]" <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

If anyone needs to cross reference Chrysler part #’s to NAPA numbers, just drop me a line.I have access to a 1985  Cross reference book as well as a 1970 Moog cross reference book.

Original Chrysler numbers can be found on John Holst web site linked to on the 300 club web site.

 

Dave Schwandt

 

From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 'Rick Vitek' rpvitek@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 10:04 AM
To: 'Ray Jones'
Cc: 'Listsaver 300 Club'
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Brake shoe retainer/hold down spring - G

 






I was going to give the part number in my last post but I was hesitant to give an actual part number for a system such as brakes. I don’t know if the part I started from was stock and 30 plus years in court means I don’t want persons to take it as a functional guarantee. So at the risk of too much information take it for what it is worth.

 

The hold down springs we found are 80712 from NAPA (four to a box). That’s the number from NAPA’s supplier ( I believe he mentioned United) . He says they also make the parts for Raybestos (unconfirmed). We eventually found the info in the paper Raybestos catalog (no such info on computer system) although he said they didn’t carry the Raybestos part. The part number was cross referenced to NAPA’s system. We found the number after some time going through a large class of “springs”. The reference to Chrysler cars from the Forward Look era was some confirmation as well as a tension that seemed to be much closer than other springs I tried. By the way, you may need to add a day or two to get the parts as he says they’re usually at the regional parts warehouse level.

 

As for the pins, I don’t have a part number any longer. Those we were able to more easily find, again only in paper in the NAPA catalog under a heading of brake pins. They were listed by length, not application. So just measure your pin length and match it to one of the lengths listed. Retainer caps were also listed next to pins.

 

As for having on hand for your car, pins and hold down springs (not retainer cups) for all four wheels were less than $15

 

From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ray Jones 1970hurst@xxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 4:19 PM
To: Rick Vitek
Cc: Listsaver 300 Club
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Brake shoe retainer/hold down spring - G

 

  

Well, now you have to report the part #'s you found that seem to be good replacements.

If you have finished the brake job and the results were OK, then those with this range of years can order them for stock.

Instead of waiting 6 months and them asking if anyone remembers who solved the problem and what was the solution.

On this kind of hard to find info, spend a few bucks and have them on hand.

Ray

 

On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:40 AM, 'Rick Vitek' rpvitek@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

  

I appreciate all the replies although the discussion morphed into one of installing disc brake conversions. Interesting, but a little more involved than replacing the hold down springs on the original drums of a G.

 

Well, no one had a “kit” with rebuild hardware. Return springs are available from several sources. The closest I found (year-wise) was for ’63 and on 300’s but the hold downs were not the same (pin length or spring tension). As usual most counter monkeys looked in the computer, found nothing, and threw up their hands. I was able to work with someone at a local NAPA that was willing to go through actual paper catalogs. Pins were no problems- choose  your length. As for hold down springs in the NAPA supplier’s catalog there were pictures of various and sundry ones along with designations such as Chrysler, GM, Ford, etc but several of each with no other application info. There were over a dozen so they aren’t generic. The retainer cups were generic mix and match. I tried a couple of springs and was surprised how much their hold down force varied. Finally in a Raybestos catalog we found a reference to Chrysler brake systems circa ’57 – ’62. We were able to translate this to a part number in the NAPA supplier’s catalog. This hold down spring seemed to match what was on the car. So correct replacements seem to be out there.

 

Nothing profound but just another adventure in tracking down parts for Unplucked.




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Ray Jones. Y'all come on down an see us. Ya hear?

 










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