Take your petty banter offline.
JoeySent: Friday, August 28, 2015 6:59 AMSubject: RE: [Chrysler300] Brake shoe retainer/hold down spring - G“Parts Monkeys” was not used… because that’s a term a group of car parts salesmen use for themselves. As for counter monkeys (also used by car parts persons) I was referring to the help at your chain parts stores. Most did not know what a retainer spring for a brake shoe was. Consistently all they could do was enter yr/make/model in the computer, look at a section such as brakes, and see what the computer listed. If it’s not in their computer it doesn’t exist. Try to ask that person to let you go and look at brake hardware kits for a comparable part. I contrast that to the help I grew up with in the Detroit area in the ‘60s and ‘70s ( I didn’t sell car parts, I made them) when the person behind the counter had some familiarity with cars. Note also how I contrasted that with the persons at NAPA who went to the paper catalogs and after diligence found the part. Ask your chain store to look at their paper catalogs. And you can be sure I thanked the guys at NAPA who went to the effort to actually look.
As for my being a “ red neck” , that’s a good one. I’ll have to share it at my next Stanford alumnae meeting.
From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Dumais dave.dumais@xxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 8:02 PM
To: Chrysler 300 List
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Brake shoe retainer/hold down spring - G
Really.
Parts Monkeys?
Kinda sort of reflects on your up bringing?
I needed parts guys when I was searching for thermal fan units, and I was grateful for the research that they performed.
Before I, left for an education, I was a parts pup at a Chrysler Dealership.
From what I recall: no animals, or red necks who think they are entitled to label service persons, where harmed I that era.
Peace.
Dave.
On Thursday, August 27, 2015 4:19 PM, "Ray Jones 1970hurst@xxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]" <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Well, now you have to report the part #'s you found that seem to be good replacements.
If you have finished the brake job and the results were OK, then those with this range of years can order them for stock.
Instead of waiting 6 months and them asking if anyone remembers who solved the problem and what was the solution.
On this kind of hard to find info, spend a few bucks and have them on hand.
Ray
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:40 AM, 'Rick Vitek' rpvitek@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I appreciate all the replies although the discussion morphed into one of installing disc brake conversions. Interesting, but a little more involved than replacing the hold down springs on the original drums of a G.
Well, no one had a “kit” with rebuild hardware. Return springs are available from several sources. The closest I found (year-wise) was for ’63 and on 300’s but the hold downs were not the same (pin length or spring tension). As usual most counter monkeys looked in the computer, found nothing, and threw up their hands. I was able to work with someone at a local NAPA that was willing to go through actual paper catalogs. Pins were no problems- choose your length. As for hold down springs in the NAPA supplier’s catalog there were pictures of various and sundry ones along with designations such as Chrysler, GM, Ford, etc but several of each with no other application info. There were over a dozen so they aren’t generic. The retainer cups were generic mix and match. I tried a couple of springs and was surprised how much their hold down force varied. Finally in a Raybestos catalog we found a reference to Chrysler brake systems circa ’57 – ’62. We were able to translate this to a part number in the NAPA supplier’s catalog. This hold down spring seemed to match what was on the car. So correct replacements seem to be out there.
Nothing profound but just another adventure in tracking down parts for Unplucked.
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