RE: [Chrysler300] Vintage Fuel Pump Supplier

["'John Grady' jkg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]" <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hey, Dave, It matches aluminum foil behind the hub cabs and grill,  to stop radar. People have been doing that for years, too!

If you have fuel line magnets, wooden pins, VX-6, Marvel "Mystery" Oil, STP, "top oil",  Stabil, Gas line anti freeze, "water wetter" , and a plastic Jesus, (with magnetic base!) you are home free.

Found out on Studebaker site, Stabil is ethanol...you know, the cause of the bad gas problem. ( to cut it all off , before it starts) ; drain gas is only sure way. Briggs and Stratton engineers got into all that, read what they say. They actually make good stuff At B&S , with no ethanol, that might work. They know this problem, maybe.

Airaid air cleaners that "add 25 hp" for 300$ (300 for an air cleaner??--even a cone shaped one-- Yow., and 3 $ worth of Chinese plastic to hold it?) are in here somewhere. What was that quote from PT Barnum?

Cannot leave Weathershield alone either, 100$ for a floor mat made of 1-2$ worth of "laser measured" polyethylene. Same stuff as free shopping bags. But hey,  guy is millionaire, 50x margin.  PT would love it.

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Subject: FW: [Chrysler300] Vintage Fuel Pump Supplier

It's probably why the guys at the proving grounds developed the Turbo Encabulator https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac7G7xOG2Ag

I gotta get me one of them for the F



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Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Vintage Fuel Pump Supplier

I don't believe it is a heat sink--if so you would want to use metal .

I believe it causes a disturbance in the airflow and helps the line dissipate heat due to increased flow across it.

Known of people doing this for years.

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Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Vintage Fuel Pump Supplier

Heat sink ? as opposed to nice way to pick up heat, if wood carried any heat. . Which way does heat go ? V8 ford radiator air is , er,  warm. Warmer than gas? Where does the heat sink to? More, er, hot air? We love you John.. I mean that. 

In old radios, recharging / reforming bad electrolytic caps only works if left in full moon for 22 minutes; many guys do it, it works. 

Big smile here..

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We used wooden clothes pins on the gas line of our 1930 and 40's Ford V-8's for a heat sink. It works.

John

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Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Vintage Fuel Pump Supplier

Had a guy tell me just the other day when I was relating Hi-Temp issues w/the F last summer while on the way to the PA meet, clip a bunch of wooden clothes pins on the gas line!!???

For a heat sink??

 

Any of you guys try that!?? 

 

From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 'John Grady' jkg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
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Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Vintage Fuel Pump Supplier

 






I think all float governed cars ,  Carter carbs , will work over a reasonable range of pressures , I mean ?? what can be critical there? Think of inlet valve? Same as toilet valve at 100psi., just bigger float? (only kidding) 

 

Number might be related to some pressure spec,  as part of the fuel pump spec (has to be set, to design the spring force ) but carb will shut off 3 to 6 or so. Probably a lot more. I do not think they are 7-- but maybe. 70’s dodge truck has 318, NICE carter 2 bbl, like the front half of an AFB, “318 fuel pump” , same float and needle as essentially all of them have? Maybe they raised spec  for more static pressure in the shut off line,  with easy to boil fuels?. But even if it boils there, it just pushes through vapor when float opens ; might make more vapor at carb (which they seem to worry about a lot in 70’s , charcoal canister all that) 

 

With respect to carb pressure , would be a minimum spec,  not a max, to get enough flow needle open , to support HP. Maybe 318 pump is in fact a lot better ,given ethanol…

 

While on this, Lots of people think vapor lock happens in that line from fuel pump to carb..you see wraps , rubber covers etc..it cannot, --think about it!--as carb end is wide  open when it needs fuel, , pump pushes fuel through it boiling or not. But at suction line near pump to frame or inside the pump , negative pressure at suction causes boiling, you might have troubles-- with suction induced low temp boiling. ( Studebakers known for this, some had pump on top of engine ) Vapor lock implies inlet valve in fuel pump has gas vapor around disc instead of fuel, cannot pump / draw in vapor with that kind of valve . Line to carb ,  after that point has nothing to do with that.. 

 

My .03

( A cynical Chrysler guy once told a Chevy guy, “ that line needs aluminum foil wrapped around it”, (once) . Lots of Chevy guys; they  believe, they have both the magnet and aluminum foil, they swear it works great.)

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Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Vintage Fuel Pump Supplier

 

 





They may fit and work, but they also put out too much pressure...7 pounds or more. This car requires a pump that puts out between 3.5 and 5 pounds. 

 

Ron

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Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Vintage Fuel Pump Supplier

 

Don't know this to be correct or not, but somewhere I once read that a more modern fuel pump from a 318 engine fits and works?

 

On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 11:18 PM, 2HsandaHeritage@xxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

  

Hi Ron,

I have had 2 rebuilt in New York for about $130 ea including shipping - Arthur Gould Rebuilders, Inc. 631-269-0093.

Or obtain one from a salvage yard and have it rebuilt.

Doug Warrener

 


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From: "'Ron Waters' ronbo97@xxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]" <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2016 4:59:58 PM
Subject: [Chrysler300] Vintage Fuel Pump Supplier

 

  

Hey Everyone -

 

Does anyone have contact information for someone that may have vintage Carter fuel pumps ?

 

Thanks,

 

Ron

 





 

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