Re: [Chrysler300] Whoa, Nelly!

That is unreal.

Can’t stand that automatic lock. must be 100 times I have gotten out of my 02 Jeep went around to pass side with stuff in my arms , or to get stuff, and door or tailgate was locked. Twice locked key in car because winter coat sleeve brushed the lock button on door arm rest; WHY put it the farthest out, where it is right where you will hit it ? Morons designed this auto lock feature; like the automatic down of front power window. I do NOT want it all the way down, I can hold my finger on it or not. Why the front power window motor linkage fails, down and up again every time. Or the elderly woman across street who came to get me at 11pm, could not get her dome light off, no matter what she did, another JEEP treat. …you know about that…

Or ding dong while getting gas with key in lock. I KNOW it is in the lock, I want it there . More intelligently, why not block locking the doors if the key is in lock? Oh no. That is a huge reach.

Have to take it out and put back in every time you get gas . Morons.

Often wonder if I had a fire in engine at 60 mph and shut it off , would steering lock?

Love 1960-70 cars .The peak. No check engine light, either

From: Gary Barker [mailto:gbarker@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
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Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Whoa, Nelly!

I would like to add my story to this. Many years ago we had a 1983 Fifth Ave. We were getting ready to go some where and my wife went out to wash off the windshield. She started the engine which was set at 2400 RPM fast idle when cold. She got out to get the garden hose and while washing off the windshield the car jumped into reverse. I was just coming out the side door and I took one step out when I was greeted by the Chrysler doing about 20 MPH. I couldn't see it coming, do to the way the back porch was set in just two steps. The left rear tire jumped up on the first step and and the car crashed into the end of the house stopping it. The rear tire was just spinning on the step and on the end of my Shoe. It knocked a 15 Ft./ section of the room wall about 9 inches The rear fender scraped my cloths. Popped all the sheet rock on the inside of the room. So there I stood pinned into a very small cubby hole , Tire screeching and billowing white smoke, The door behind me was jammed and here comes my wife running as fast as she could. I yelled at her to get in the car and turn it off. Guess what the doors were locked and the drivers door was up against the house.

Do guys know how long it took her to get in the back door and go in the house and find the spare keys? I almost fell to sleep while waiting. My kids have always wondered why I am premature Gray.

Gary Barker

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Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Whoa, Nelly!

Going back to 50’s when I learned to drive , and no park, (stick anyway) part of driving test and instructions prior was to always cut front wheels on a hill so it would jam to curb if it moved. Maybe Boston thing..have a lot of hills. My test consisted of parallel parking in a tight single car metered spot on a steep hill in Brighton , stick shift, huge stress on me, ---and failing to cut wheels, set brake meant flunk. NEW 60 pioneer black hardtop 318 stick. Wish I had it now.

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Subject: [Chrysler300] Whoa, Nelly!

It seems to me that the parking brake may be a little less effective in preventing my cars from rolling backwards. Perhaps the rear brakes are more self-energizing when rolling forward. On my vehicles, I really stomp or yank the parking brake pedal or lever when parking on an uphill grade—and I do this before placing the selector in “Park”. This way, I can get in, stomp the brake pedal, release the parking brake and hope to easily move the selector from “Park” to “Drive” or “Reverse”. Our little ’86 Chrysler T&C convertible (K-car) is particularly difficult to get out of Park if the proper parking brake process has not been implemented. I know that some cars have had to get a little tug or push to take the pressure off of the parking pawl. And with stick shifts, fuggittaboutit unless you have a competition clutch—and don’t count on that.

Way too many people have been run over by their own vehicles while the vehicle was in “Park” or at least cringed as they saw their car going out on its own to play in traffic or the neighbor’s pool. Don’t let it happen to you. Thanks to the members who have shared their horribles. I’ll add that a farmer friend was run over by his own Ford 3/4T truck as it slipped out of “Park” on its own with the motor running and started backing up. He attempted to get back in and slipped under the LF tire which cracked his pelvis. We can and should learn from these shared horribles.

Much too late for a recall on our letter cars, but the problem is applicable to ALL vehicles—new and old.

Rich Barber

Brentwood, CA (Kind of a belt and suspenders sort of guy)

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Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Setting the parking brake . 64 300

Agree completely. It baffles me when I see people who should know better, not setting the parking brake before releasing the brake pedal on automatics, particularly on any sort on uneven surface. If you choose to call it an "emergency brake" and make that argument, it might not be much help in an emergency if you never use it and keep it freed up.

Ryan Hill

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Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 15:45:39 -0400
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Setting the parking brake . 64 300

On any car, vintage or modern, I always set the parking brake unless on completely level surfaces, such as in my garage.

It really bothers me when I see people shove the car in park and then let it roll a bit until the pawl engages. Puts too much stress on the pawl.

By using the parking brake regularly, it never corrodes in place to the point where it can't be used. Of course, with the early 300s with no park position, it must be used. And even then, as Dave Schwandt said, having a wheel chock handy is a good idea.

Don Warnaar

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