Hi Johnny, That paint really changes color with time; same with terra cotta. I have an untouched ,indoor stored Terra Cotta F, and say, under the taillights or trunk lid, , the color is not what I see around as Terra Cotta now. I had an F convert repainted terra cotta mix by someone else before me , it was going toward a frosty purple! Terra cotta looks like terra cotta tiles, not surprisingly. In 60 , Chrysler corp , and especially Dodge went crazy with "frosty" look , silvery metallics everywhere , ---all gone in 61. Drove me to buy a black 60 Phoenix coupe in 1960. (If gone in 61 = ?? = What were we thinking?--Imperial had it in 59, a nice metallic silvery wine color , I used it on a 57 Dodge ) I am on my third "red F" , this one is the current Ford pickup non-metallic red. (great color..go look!) The last one before that was the 61 300G red, the red F before that was Imron Mack truck red.(70's!---awful looking stuff) but --again--- hard to transfer those old 1960 metallic dust formulas to today's paints . You get weird stuff. On the other hand if that is what you want, the metallic, not sure what to do. I recently added a "beetle like" wild looking metallic green accent to a white Jeep, picked from "House of Kolor" stuff. Their paint is fantastic looking, they must have 1000 shades of "candy apple red", or "black cherry", varying metallic, (look on web site) ?? a muted stock one, or a custom mix might be close to original Toreador red. Mine was done by a local custom motorcycle painter (Sean or Shawn ) who does those fades, ghosts, shadows etc on choppers --see "pepahill classics" or Clark's autobody. . He can do anything. Somehow, to me, 300's just look right in period non metallics, but to each his own...A white 300C or E just says something... non metallic red not offered in 60, so I empathize with you on this problem . ...my first restoration of a red F in 70's I fought with this issue, back and forth. . The 60 metallic blue looks nice, though, like Gil's car.. Like later cuda B5 blue? I have often looked at 1960 contemporary F ads about this red color , ads still in good shape, (the "red hot and rambunctious" one) Toreador red looks really sharp, but in person on a car today does not look like those ads. Ads ARE darker red, seem less metallic. Not sure why that is. I think Nissan or Mazda has a slightly metallic red color , little more toward cherry, like the ads. (spoken as a long term fan of Titian Red on 56 Buicks, might have become ? corvette Honduras Maroon...= not good on a 300, (!!) gold metallic ) . Today , having the "correct" color matters more, ---I do get that. But I still like RED. Like the C300, B,C,D, E and G up had. -----Original Message----- From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jslayton@xxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 9:51 AM To: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [Chrysler300] 60 paint I wonder if anyone out there has ever dealt with this problem ?---the 60 Toreador red---Chrysler-----Plum red----Plymouth-----Winterberry Red----Desoto--- all have the same paint code---and same formula-----I had a sample made for the Winterberry red met----it is much too red-----checked the formula for Plum red and it is the same as Winterberry---this Desoto was repainted sometime in the past and this paint is very faded---however the door jambs, under the trunk lid,and some other areas have nice original paint still on them----there is an F cv. on the website----and I have seen others---that is Toreador red and it looks to me to be correct-----anyone have a paint code for a paint that is correct---or very close-----thanks------Johnnie Slayton ------------------------------------ Posted by: <jslayton@xxxxxxxxxx> ------------------------------------ To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or go to https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/all/manage/edit For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm For archives go to http://www.forwardlook.net/300-archive/search.htm#querylang ------------------------------------ Yahoo Groups Links ------------------------------------ Posted by: "John Grady" <jkg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ------------------------------------ To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or go to https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/all/manage/edit For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm For archives go to http://www.forwardlook.net/300-archive/search.htm#querylang ------------------------------------ Yahoo Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/join (Yahoo! 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