Along
this thread line, and back to Toreador Red,--- This AM
coming to work (I pretend to work, pretend to get
paid, too) , I saw the Local Fire Chief’s (Ayer Ma)
new Ford explorer at the fire station ; it is painted
a really nice color that I remember as being Toreador
Red (as I remember it) or even better than Toreador
red. It does have some purple in it, going
slightly dark toward red wine color, and a light
metallic ; it looked so good that if I were doing an
F--- on it goes. Must be a stock new ford color ….
Jamie’s
travails are typical of trying to “match” old colors,
and then once you pull the trigger, if you are not
happy with all the custom mixing afterwards, you kick
your tail every time you see the car. After all that $
, time and effort. Been there. Too many times. And
repainting a few times brings no joy to the wallet or
months of work at all. In pursuit of what? What
someone else thinks or dictates the color is ?
Contrast to that, --you see a modern car with a great
color and you are sure you are going to be getting
that color, in a much better , high volume produced ,
easily matched paint, and it is very close to, or
possibly better looking than the original. This
comment is in the context of metallics. I know not all
agree, but my .02. I want to walk out of my house and
say WOW when I see my car, not “damn, missed the color
again, arrgh””too little or too much metallic” “not
quite right” etc etc . On non metallics match for
sure, 57 Gauguin (sp) red, aka (to me) Salmon, we
did that from under the taillight bezel. Beautiful.
Interesting
topic….
jg
One factor you
may be running into is humidity levels. If you are
spraying in your garage with humidity levels above
50-60%, you will end up with much different results
than if humidity is below 40%.
From: Jamie Hyde [mailto:Jamie.Hyde@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 9:10 AM
To: Ron Waters; Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Re: Colorful
comments
Another
thing I learned was with the modern two part paint
systems the gloss and sheen changes over time as the
chemical reaction completes in the coating and the
solvents off gas out through the upper layer of color.
I was thinking that the last application was perfect
after a few hours of dry time only to see the next day
it was way too dull.
Jamie -
Yes, it's always
a good idea to do 'spray outs' before painting the
actual part. I know the Dupont system is very flexible
in terms of tweeking color and gloss.
Ron
From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Jamie Hyde jamie.hyde@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[Chrysler300]
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 8:33 AM
To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Chrysler300] Re: Colorful comments
Another problem I ran
into when painting the dash on my 65L was the vintage
formula. The original DuPont color mix from the
factory calls for a certain amount of deglosser to be
added to the color. That chemical additive has been
banned from sale now. The paint shop that I dealt with
can only supply a flatting agent which has different
properties. They could not tell me what the new mix
ratio should be as they have no reference from the old
deglosser to the new flattener ratio. Well one can
guess what happ
ened when I applied it. The first application was way
too glossy, but the color was great at the original
deglosser ratio, the second application was still too
glossy, (I had added more flattener) but by now the
paint was getting too thick, so back to the sand
blaster to start again. I reprimed the dash and the
third time it was way too dull (I had added more
flattener) and that is when I ran out of time and
weather. Looking back I know I should have just
painted test panels rather than the whole dash but it
was a gamble.
Jamie
Hyde
585-465-0067
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