Re: [Chrysler300] F.I. D on e-bay

["GARY RUNKEL moparfan@xxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]" <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Some of you undoubtedly know of Tom White's stunning 1958 Adventurer convertible which is an original FI car. Somehow he managed to find all original FI parts and restored this car which seems to be the one and only vehicle left with this equipment. And of course it runs! Two years ago he posted pictures of these parts on the Forward Look facebook page. They are still there if you look hard enough, but I have copied them to a public photo bucket for your ease of access: https://tinyurl.com/y93tng8b

Bob Merrit or Carl Bilter,

These pics might be something we'd want to keep on our web site as a reference. I am not sure of  protocol for adding someone else's photos onto the club web site but Tom did place them in a public forum. Perhaps if we just give him proper credit we will avoid any hassles?

Gary Runkel

Rochester Hills, MI

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From: "'John Grady' jkg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]" <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Carl" <cbilter@xxxxxxxxx>, "David Schwandt" <finsruskw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Allan" <agmoon@xxxxxxxxx>, "chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Club" <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 5:38:30 PM
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] F.I. D on e-bay

 

Hi Carl, cannot thank you enough. From this, it started as vacuum tubes, then progressed in R&D to transistors , 4 generations were mentioned.. Inferring from the operating description , actually a very simple thing electrically. They seem to be just adding varying amounts of resistors in a set of non linear sensors of ~ 5 parameters, in series, to an RC circuit that is controlling the injection pulse width. 20PSI rail, solenoid injectors(!); then a power amp, and a distributor to each probably 12 v injector..probably a roller contact. Same as today, in a way, but today a computer with look up tables is far more accurate today, than building curves into the sensors . But ideas are perfect, 100 % on. Correct idea but immature technology has been the bane of leading edge thinkers from the first wheel!

I am hopeful one of us gets a real schematic. They were understandably holding the real workings secret when it was new..probably patents filed. Good ones I think!

Analog circuits are surprisingly resistant to spike noise, so probably not EMI as much as widely varying voltages on a generator system, severe temperature drift effects all over the device and the engine temp /outside temp etc…

Nice try, we give it A+

From: Carl [mailto:cbilter@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 3:41 PM
To: John Grady; 'David Schwandt'; 'Allan'; 'chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Club'
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] F.I. D on e-bay

John, the attached might be helpful from an EE standpoint. The modulator (brain) was solid state. The system was inadequately shielded from EMI. Agree, wish we could find an actual schematic.

Carl

http://soyeur.pagesperso-orange.fr/Mopar/SAE%20paper%20on%20Electrojector.pdf

From: 'John Grady' jkg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <mailto:Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 12:07 PM
To: 'David Schwandt' <mailto:finsruskw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; 'Allan' <mailto:agmoon@xxxxxxxxx> ; 'chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Club' <mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] F.I. D on e-bay

Really interesting what a real FI car might get. Even if an obvious wreck now….gotta like the Ford blue hemi and yellow wires, spliced radiator hose. . .Wonder if he has the FI unit in an old box?? I have tried for years to get a wiring diagram of what was in them, how they worked, EE hat on .Really curious. Heard they had vacuum tubes, that would be something. Old enough to know about those, aka Philcojohn .That would mean a vibrator power supply in 57. Maybe very early transistor stuff. Bendix had mil connotations……

Does VIN id a fuel car in any way? Probably had a unique distributor to pick up needed signals…

From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 'David Schwandt' finsruskw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 10:44 AM
To: 'Allan'; chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Club
Subject: [Chrysler300] F.I. D on e-bay

https://www.ebay.com/itm/202278640078?ul_noapp=true <https://www.ebay.com/itm/202278640078?ul_noap%20p=true&rmvSB=true> &rmvSB=true

Roster shows it is/was John Follie’s car, the junkyard guy in Williams, CA that is on the Forward Look site a lot.

I have sold him a few parts in the past.

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Posted by: GARY RUNKEL <moparfan@xxxxxxxxxx>

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