Despite having done it 25 times in past ,I spent a truly frustrating day yesterday over oil pan gaskets . If you use modern silicone / RTV gasket materials very sparingly at the very ends of the Chrysler pan gaskets , it acts as a very slippery lubricant right at the critical front timing case cover joint with pan . So as you evenly tighten down the pan and it’s 180 degree rubber seal pieces, and the ends start to press on the cork , the cork pan gasket will promptly extrude back out, at the timing chain cover — by sliding on the silicone . = big gap, = major leak . Note that by now it is starting to harden .. so three tries , pan on and off , I cut rubber a little ( bad mistake— overthinking the problem ); got nowhere . Then , under increasing time pressure, tried to glue end of cork gasket to block with 3M weatherstrip adhesive , — which will not deal with silicone (!) . Big mess. Can you say 4 -5 hours on something this dumb? And utterly frustrating . So I had to get new pan front and rear rubber 180, full lengths , start over, scraped off half hard silicone from the cork with razor , ( or get new cork) and glued cork pan gasket with weatherstrip adhesive to block for about 3/4” near front cover . Pan off . Waited 24 hours . Then, Tiny bead of wet silicone only at joint , went together perfectly . Do not be tempted to rtv the pan U slot with the rubber; had to undo that good idea too. Big mess . All this was caused by RTV/ silicone . In past it was permatex , acts as a retention glue . I checked and the excellent 3M product is rated to 300 degrees F as a gasket holder . ( weaker at high temp though) . So , glue the very ends of gaskets front and back to block the night before , no rtv till gasket is held firmly in exact right place . keep your sanity . . And your store of nice words. John G Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------------ Posted by: John Grady <jkg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ------------------------------------ To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or go to https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/all/manage/edit For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm For archives go to http://www.forwardlook.net/300-archive/search.htm#querylang ------------------------------------ Yahoo Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: Chrysler300-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Chrysler300-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Chrysler300-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo Groups is subject to: https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/