Re: [Chrysler300] A few questions.....

Hi Rob, aluminum 727 TF does not bolt to 413. Unless crank / engine is 62 up . Or put 62 up 413 or 440 crank in the early block . Flange projection out of block changed . Gets complicated . Starter mounted to aluminum block spacer plates are used on cast iron . No flex plate on cast iron , converter totally different mount . Have done this , on 440 , into 60 , but in retrospect with really good cast iron torque flights from Don Verity , you are way way ahead with keeping old one all stock stuff if a pre 62 413. . E brake , park position issue etc .plus all this . I believe 62 -63 trans is best fit car , has two operating cables ( 63, Park and shift , do not use park ) I am not familiar with cable operated later than 63 . But there is a fellow in Vt makes various adapters , but I do not think for this .

The one we did do was 63 trans , 440 , E body rear in 6O car . E body 8 3/4 gets you e brakes in back , fits . Special driveshaft , front adapter to special 4 bolt flange . No Detroit joint .

Just sayin .. looking back , yes , 727 better , but unless really racing , really not that much better . And CI keeps your plymouth pseudo original . Cast iron HD survived in a heavy 300 after all .

I changed my mind .. once felt just like you do . Been there , throttle linkage just one of 14 issues. Ratio wrong at top of throttle arm too . Shift cables E brakes , speedo Your call . 3x the work. **

John

PS a best friend had brand new , a 383 ram 61 plymouth wagon . Stick. I was with him when he picked it up . Took care of a very fast 57 Pontiac giving us hassles . His brother had a 1 4 bbl stick black 60 sport fury , 361 or 383 , about same ability

** tried a second time trying to get a gear vendors OD into an F .requires Al case Early aluminum cable torqueflight has a rear pump . That pump interferes with Gear Vendors OD . Spent a year on that , cannot be done . Long story . Went a different way , long story too..

nice project ...

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On 30 Apr 2020, at 11:48 am, rob bohuslav sonoramic413@xxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello all, I hope everyone is staying healthy.....

I have a few questions for the group in helping me out with my '61 Plymouth long ram swap (using the early 60-61 "long rams" on a 413)....

1. I plan to use a later aluminum case 727 (1965 unit... slip yolk and push button compatible) I was wondering if anyone had a dipstick for a 300J or 300K for sale. I believe this would be the only trans dipstick that would work with my combo. I think the earlier cast iron transmissions use a different style dipstick, as it installs into the trans in a different location.

2. Are the oil dipsticks unique to the ram cars? If so, I would be looking for one of those also.

3. I have the correct inner fenders for a ram car with the "cutouts". Has anyone installed the inner fenders without completely dissembling the front sheet metal? I would like to be able to just install the inner fender panels without tearing everything apart. I still need to see if they are for a long wheelbase, or short. If for a long wheelbase, I'll probably be stuck with modifying my existing inner fender panels.

4. Would I run into problems using my '61 trans mount for the later aluminum 727? What would I need to make this work?

5. I bought the correct cross ram throttle linkage firewall "bell crank" from JC Auto a while back. I am now seeing that there is a little bracket that bolts to the trans bell housing to support it. It looks like it has some sort of nylon bushing in it for the end of the throttle linkage/pivot. Does anyone have one of these available? ... I guess I could call the folks at JC Auto too...... but figured Id ask here.

6. Does anyone make a reusable/washable air filter like the K&N for the ram air cleaners? Ive tried to look them up on the K&N site, using the cross reference info on the 300 page, but came up with nothing. I'm not sure if there is another alternative to the K&N..

Thanks everyone for all the help! Hopefully this mess will be over soon.

Rob

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