Re: [Chrysler300] 1957 DeSoto
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Re: [Chrysler300] 1957 DeSoto





Exactly right , Dan .
Along same lines the fastest car in our nightly races in 1961 was a 50 olds coupe , 59 olds 394 bored and stroked to about 450” . Get this ; 3x2 bbl J2 setup but two end carbs running alcohol .. two gas tanks! 
He had 4:11 gears and the old B&M hydrostick which has a 4:1 first gear .
Car was unbeatable fast , killing 425 409 . The Olds had a great suspension — two beams go forward from axle to just behind the transmission. It would raise up a foot and no tire burn , gone by two car lengths in the first two seconds .
Those were the days ... 

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On 7 May 2020, at 8:28 pm, dan300f <dan300f@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi, all,  

My first new car was a 1956 D500.  No one in western PA could touch me.  Beat the dealers' '57 D500 and he didn' t like that very much even though he was my cousin.  The only car to beat me, and not by very much in a half mile drag was a new '57 Pontiac tri-power.  Sure wish I had ordered the D501.  I did not know about 300's then or I would have bought one instead.

A friend souped up a '50 Olds with a 354 hemi. He had a full race cam and milled the heads something fierce.  I could take him easily up to 1/4 mile but at the 1/2 mile point he would go by me like I was standing still.

Dan Reitz




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From: "'John Grady' jkg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]" <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 5/7/20 3:31 PM (GMT-08:00)
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] 1957 DeSoto

There were Adventurers right up to 1960. The 57 was their last hemi ,  341” 2 - 4 bbl. Essentially the same car as 300 , but smaller cu in and totally different hemi engine unique to Desoto. I thought all Desoto were hydraulic lifters, but someone said solids in 57, --I do not think so, stock, but not sure--I do remember doing lot of work on a black 56 Adventurer personally, with a friend converting to stick shift ,and changing to solid lifters with adjustable push rods. So 56 Adventurer for sure hydraulic . Way cool car, gold hubcaps and trim.  I believe a 57 convert has sold for more than any 300. (300k $ plus) Rare. I had a 57 adventurer coupe, sold it 30+ years ago..



Dodge and Chrysler had solids in high end engines , in particular 56 D500 was really fast. 57 less so. Anyone remember Broderick Crawford, ?Highway Patrol? Ca state troopers, all had 56 D500. 100’s of them. CHP tested all 56 cars, D500 (had those “awful 300 12” brakes” in police package) ran away  from all the others, 130 or something,  Ford dead at 110. And best brake performance of all the cars tested. Was a big deal at the time, I was 13 or 14. I remember it vividly . (already hooked) They bought all 56 Dodge hemi D500 police cars. Remember on 10” TV seeing him run down Fords and shoebox Chevs. My Dad had a 51 Stude, I killed him to get a Dodge. He bought a 53 Dodge 4 dr six, as bad as the Stude (almost) ; incessant beating on him got us a used 57 D 500 but a 4dr, it was slow.



56 was it…..later I got a 57 d500 stick convert. 600$ in 1960. Wish I still had it..it got a 392 eventually.



From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Noel Hastalis cpaviper@xxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 4:53 PM
To: Craig Klein; Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 1957 DeSoto








Looking quickly at the specs online, the engine ratings for 1956 - 1958 DeSoto Adventurers were as follows 



1956 -

* Cubic inches - 341 Hemi
* Horsepower - 320
* Torque @ rpm - 356@4,000
* Trans - PowerFlite

1957 -

* Cubic inches - 345 Hemi
* Horsepower - 345
* Torque @ rpm - 390@2,400
* Trans - TorqueFlite
* Lifters - Hydraulic

1958 -

* Cubic inches - 361 Wedge
* Horsepower - 345
* Torque @ rpm - 400@3,600
* Trans - TorqueFlite

Noel





On May 7, 2020 at 3:21 PM "Craig Klein ddk07@xxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]" <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 

Hi All

There doesn't seem to a Adventurer in 1957. All DeSoto V8s have hydraulic lifters. The hottest DeSoto engine in 1957, the Fireflite, 341CI Hemi with 4bbl. 1956 Adventurer, same engine. 1958 Adventurer, 361ci wedge with 2 4bbl carbs

Craig 





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