--On 04/03/2021 5:43 PM EM-ATC-2021 <millserat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:For those of us with 1962 and later cars which came with Narrow (Beautyline) whitewalls separated from the rim by a strip of black rubber, there used to be several good choices, mostly in 15 inch, but a few in 215/75R14 (Replaces 8.00-14, 8.25-14, G78-14).
Sorry to report several makers have Discontinued Narrow Whitewall Tires -
1. Up until recently Toyo Extensa A/S was made in several narrow whitewall 15 inch sizes. These are no longer listed and appear to have been replaced by Extensa A/S II in blackwall only with reduced size availability.
2. Cooper Trendsetter SE are now listed in only 4 sizes - P205/75R15, P215/75R15, P235/75R15, and P215/70R15 - and all now narrow whitewall. And for those who think Cooper tires are made in USA, I am sorry to disappoint you, the last 235/75R15 Trendsetter SE I bought was made in Mexico and I have seen other Cooper tires from around the world as well as the USA.
3. Hankook appears to have discontinued the Optimo H724 but has added the Kinergy ST H735 in several 15 inch sizes plus the 215/75R14 - but these are now available in both black sidewall and narrow whitewall - and most sellers are only showing the blackwall, so caveat emptor - make sure you get the whitewall if that is what you want.
4. Nexen is still showing all their N-Priz AH5 tires previously made in narrow whitewall, again mostly 15 inch, but dont be surprised to see them go away.
On the plu$ $ide, there are still American Classics and Diamond Back Tire now has an Auburn Premium tire in most 15 inch sizes but INCLUDING A NEW HR78-14 (8.50-14, 8.55-14) wide whitewall (available in Red, Gold, Blue, etc, but not shown in Narrow Whitewall - but you can ask). No further details, but it looks like a decent, if expensive tire that resembles the older Michelins in tread pattern.
And of course Diamond Back can put a custom (narrow, wide, extra wide) whitewall on any tire you can find and there are still more mass production grade blackwall 15 inch tires to choose from.
In my mind the first 4 represent a high quality mass produced tire available at reasonable ($70-100) prices. And personally I prefer mass produced tires as opposed to specialty tires both because of price and consistent quality compared to specialty tires frequently made in small batches using older tooling with more need of skilled hand labor.
Several other tires are probably still out there from Specialty shops such as Coker, including the Maxxis MA1 (Taiwan). Then there is the (Vanderbilt, Cordovan, Telstar, Multi-Mile, Jetzon, Eldorado) Gremax 5000, and there are several more Chinese options that keep popping up including Milestar MS775, Vercelli Classic 787, Venenzia Classic 787, etc., but having handled a somewhat wimpy Milestar M775, I personally would stay with one of the Hankook (Korea or Indonesia), Nexen (Korea), Cooper (Mexico), Toyo (Japan) group as they appear to be more robust tires with beefier sidewalls.
And in the short term, there may still be Toyo Extensa AS and Hankook H724 out there from recent production.
On 3/28/2021 5:21 PM, EM-ATC-2021 wrote:Per historic data equivalence, H78-15 (previous 8.45-15 or 7.60-15) crosses to HR78-15, H70-15, HR70-15, P225/75R15, P235/70R15, P255/60R15. Each successive generation reduced overall diameter and radials have lower section height (Static Loaded Radius) for given diameter.
7.60-15 - 28.7-29.0 OD (Manufacturers Specs - OD varies by Manufacturer) Loaded Radius 13.3-13.5 in
8.45-15 (later 8.55-15) - 28.4-28.7 OD, Loaded Radius 12.96-12.99 in
215R14 (early Michelin Radial) 28.4 OD, Loaded Radius 12.6 in
H78-15 28.2-28.4 OD, Loaded Radius 13.1 in
HR78-15 (Michelin data only) 28.2 OD, Loaded Radius 12.4 in
H70-15 28.4 OD, Loaded Radius 13.1-13.2 Loaded Radius
HR70-15 (Michelin only) 28.2 OD, 12.4 Loaded Radius
P225/75R15 28.2-28.4 OD (Cooper Trendsetter 28.05 OD) 12.4-12.7 Loaded Radius (limited current data)
P235/70R15 27.8-28.0 OD, Loaded Radius Data Not Available
So expect car to sit about an inch lower with current tires
FYI next size up is P235/75R15 which is much more common due to its use on pickup trucks well after cars moved away from 15 inch tires
P235/75R15 28.9-29.0 OD, Loaded Radius 12.7-12.9 in and still available in production (read cost effective) narrow whitewalls from Hankook, Toyo, Nexen, and Cooper last I checked.
On 3/28/2021 12:44 PM, Noel Hastalis wrote:--Hi Joe,Looks like Kelsey’s Goodyear Polyglas Tires is the only current source and, as you mention, H70-15 classic RWL (raised white letter) tires aren’t in their offerings. I’ve attached a few links here for the classic G70-15, and a link for the classic L60-15 bias ply tires. Don’t see any radials listed having the classic RWL appearance.Comparing the specs of the G70 and L60 -Diameter 26.8” vs 28.07”Tread width 8.40” vs 9.00”Section width 9.76” vs 12.12”Load 1620# vs 1970#H70-15 tires are listed as 28.1” diameter, so they approximate the meatier L60-15’s diameter.Though they’ll have L60 instead of a G70 lettering, the L60 tire height will look the correct height. Question is, does your Hurst have the inside and outside clearance for these 60-series tires that are about 2.3” wider that your current H70s? Also scope this out with your front wheels turned all the way left and right.Have you reached out to our Club’s Hurst consultant, Karl Pippart III? - karl@xxxxxxxxx.Good luck, and let us know if you find a better solution!Noelhttps://www.jegs.com/i/Kelsey-Tire/618/CB4W1/10002/-1--
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On Mar 28, 2021, at 11:18 AM, highoctane300h via Chrysler 300 Club International <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
--Hi all…
I’m in desperate need of new tires for my 70’ Hurst, the original tires are of an add size H70-15 no longer made, any suggestions Bias or Radial must be GoodYear’s, trying to maintain originality as much as possible,
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