Re: {Chrysler 300} Burned 300J at auction - 8433173261
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Re: {Chrysler 300} Burned 300J at auction - 8433173261



Looking again at the pics of the 300J, I think they can buff that right out.... 🤪

Nice YouTube video; was a super good car...
Dunno how the high heat would affect things like the various metal components that may have become embrittled...

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On Jun 17, 2021, at 10:06 AM, dverity@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:


Greg was having problems getting the proper connectors for his harnesses. That’s one of the reasons he stopped. He did offer the boards to the club members, but got no takers.
Don
 
From: John Grady
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2021 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: {Chrysler 300} Burned 300J at auction - 8433173261
 
dealing with that harness stuff  right now, as getting old I have no chance of sneaking behind dash unless i pull front seats and brake pedal . Did that but still punting psychologically on doing it .And may not be able to . To pull dash it seems one would have to undo engine harness and pull out as one piece 57-61 , otherwise no rope to move dash . I believe windshield has to come out on some? And column  Or take out subassemblies like gauge cluster radio etc to get in there , wheel still in the way . That pulling modules itself a huge job .How did they ever fix this stuff ? 
 
Any input on this , — ??? beyond finding an 8 year old or midget who can fix it . Your point about area behind push  buttons on F so true. Even with dash out of car getting directional light connector apart or together and out of way almost impossible . 10 lbs in five lb bag.
 
Extremely aggravating fact on this car the dash is full of those moronic ( only word that  fits)      blue “insulation displacement “tap style push on self cutting splices , like 15 of them hanging down . Never buy a  car with those your wiring is ruined , the strands break right there, and as an EE I think not safe period.   Sure sign that an electrically incompetent person worked on your car with 5 $ box of napa splices and did half azz work. Already pulled 10-15 out of front of car , even joining headlight and parklight wires exposed to water 
 
Could say a lot more about things found but enough .
 
Yes we miss Greg’s top quality work , he told  me he disposed of all the tooling and layout boards to make our harnesses into dumpster when he stopped . That should have gone to one of the harness guys or even ? Quirey .  
Recently worked a bit with YnZ in california on 50 Packard harness , I was impressed , a guy named Chris knows his stuff , one day process great interaction . Back ordered  . Fair price. Not sure if he has our harnesses , remember some are specific to 300 only , such as F power seats / console which I had bought from Greg. 
Good subject .. John G
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On 17 Jun 2021, at 7:53 am, John Nowosacki <jsnowosacki@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

After 60+ years, even a well cared for F or G has wiring harnesses that no longer have supple insulation, making it easy for cracks or missing pieces to appear, especially if you have to get up under the dash to work on a light switch or ignition switch and push or pull on the wires. 
When I restored my 57, I bought a new harness from club member Greg, but I had the entire dash out of the car so it was an easy task (relatively).  I was also 25 years younger then!  I don't know if Greg or anyone else ever offered F or G wiring harnesses, or if I am even up to ripping the dash out of my 'never been apart' G convertible.  Starting in 62, there was at least a bulkhead connector to make the job somewhat easier (with its own inherent problems), but on a 61 convertible that area behind the dash on the left hand side is pretty crowded (emergency brake, power pack, light switch, convertible top switch, mirror control, power window loom, power seats, etc.)  I imagine it's potentially even worse if the car has A/C?
It's much easier to rewire a stripper pick up truck from the 50's with radio/heater delete. ;-)
 
On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 7:22 AM John Grady <jkg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
brings up adding a main fuse at starter relay too . Waytek sells a small one bolts hold fuse . use 50-60 A , 10 ga wire . This past year I saw two ( F ,G ) burned harnesses . Destroyed .  One started where red feed wire to circuit breakers in left kick panel ( PW , PSeat , feed) had shorted on  the sharp sheet metal edge of the punched holes in stamping near there . Add sleeve , ? split  fuel line hose ? if in there .   Cut right into wire . Or that plastic U stuff on edge . 
Other one had shorted to the metal dash back — in ignition switch area due to an animal replacement of ignition switch stake ons . Guy had twisted main wires to switch together to extend and half azz taped . Not even soldered .

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On 16 Jun 2021, at 9:44 pm, D.C. Mason <petergriffinforpresident@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I know hindsight is usually 20/20, but I always keep a fire extinguisher in my Chryslers for just such a case... I’ve had to use one once.  Can mean the difference between minimal damage and total loss... 
 
V/r,
dave

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On Jun 16, 2021, at 9:31 PM, Carl <cbilter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:



What is exceptionally sad is that this Madison Gray J was at one time a nicely restored car.  It was auctioned at Barrett-Jackson Scottsdale in 2005.  The subsequent owner then put more money into it on various items and I believe this was featured either in Hemmings or one of the Mopar mags.  It was for sale for some time at a dealer in Las Vegas.  Here is a YouTube on the car from 2017: 

1963 Chrysler 300J - YouTube

 

Here is the B-J link on the car:  1963 CHRYSLER 300J 2 DOOR HARDTOP - (barrett-jackson.com)

 

Carl B.

 

From: Rich Barber
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2021 7:56 PM
To: 'Nick Taylor'; 'Chrysler 300 Club International'
Subject: RE: {Chrysler 300} Burned 300J at auction - 8433173261

 

VIN is in registry owner Tom Bezler.  Looks like fire possibly started under hood @ LH carb.  Nothing left in interior but engine/tranny/rams may be OK.  A/C car.  Sad. Condolences.

 

 

Rich B. in hot, dry Brentwood, CA.

 

From: chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Nick Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2021 4:58 PM
To: Chrysler 300 Club International <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: {Chrysler 300} Burned 300J at auction - 8433173261

 

https://www.copart.com/lot/44573641/1963-chrysler-300-pa-scranton

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