Re: {Chrysler 300} Re: Convt top for 1964 "K" - my sad story
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Re: {Chrysler 300} Re: Convt top for 1964 "K" - my sad story



I believe I have bought pre made  tops from Bill Hirsch ( long time supplier ) and never had any issues . Beautifully made. 
He had several quality levels I picked the best one , less concerned about exact matches as much as durability and high quality . a step up . 
I had a new 57 mopar convert about 1960 , the material was true junk , already. torn at three years old . . Failed zipper too. The Hirsch top now has 10 years at least on it .
Hirsch May  not be what it was , but 3-4 toos  were rally good , much better than oem .
Just info .
Making one from scratch seems fraught with risk compared with someone who has made 200 + of them . 
Seeking original ( was like light canvas!) brings original problems . 
I second finding really good installers doing a lot of business . Critical ! 

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On May 20, 2022, at 4:50 PM, Ray Melton <rfmelton@xxxxxxx> wrote:



I had GREAT difficulty finding a reputable maker of convertible tops who said they could provide the correct material (inside and out) and had a good pattern for my 1957 300C convertible.  When I finally found a place that said they could make me one that would fit, I gave them the go-ahead and sent money up front.  It took them 6 weeks to finally send the top, which I then took to the highly reputed shop where I had previously had them rebuild springs and fresh padding under the Goers leather, which they cleaned and delivered in beautiful shape.  At that time, I knew the top replacement was on the horizon, so I asked them in detail about installing a premade top, and they also showed me in person some work on recent high-end BMWs, Audis and Mercedes.  I was impressed with their workmanship and attitude.  They took barely two weeks to call and tell me the car was ready for delivery.  When I got there, the top looked excellent, but the meticulous installer and manager showed me in detail how the top was unavoidably quite tight in a couple areas, and had also been loose in other places, which they were able to mitigate, but not entirely remediate.  They demonstrated up/down operation and I had the car towed back to the restoration shop for further work.

About a week after delivering the car back to the main shop, he needed to retract the top for some reason; when he got the top about 3/4 retracted, he heard a very loud "SNAP" - the top had overstretched in one place and had instantly ripped an 18" tear in the aft quarter of the top!  We towed the car back to the upholstery shop (50 miles each way), where they examined it carefully and said the top was not only too tight, but that the pinpoint vinyl material in that segment had apparently been installed incorrectly - they said the material is manufactured such that it is able to stretch in one direction but not the other, and the material had been installed crosswise, so it couldn't stretch.  With the top material now torn, the inner and outer materials could be carefully examined, showing lines on the backside of the outer material to indicate the direction of stretch.  I contacted the manufacturer of the top, and they pointed fingers at the the installer instead, so they were unwilling to offer a refund, but would give me a discount on a replacement of the $500 top material.  I didn't trust them now and declined.

I talked with the upholstery shop and they offered to make a new top from scratch if we could find the correct material for inside and outside.  It turns out that the maker of the top material only offered it in white outside with black inside, whereas the original top was supposed to have a tan interior - probably to match the universal tan of the leather seat upholstery.  That supplier said they could provide the correct white/tan material, but only in a 100-yard quantity - and the material was already hideously expensive at $350/running yard (plus shipping from Germany).  That was obviously out of the question, so we went with the black interior material, which was immediately available at a reasonable price.

We towed the car back to the upholstery shop and two weeks after the material was delivered, they called and said it was ready.  This time the installer had used the old torn top as an initial guide, but custom-fit the new material a little longer here and a little shorter there, etc., yielding a perfectly fitted, tight, wrinkle-free new top.  The said they had actuated the top several cycles, and confidently demonstrated that before I accepted the job and towed the car back to the restoration shop again.  Three months of great stress, six tow-truck bills, finger-pointing and education the hard way was finally over!

Final note to a semi-happy ending:  My insurance with JC Taylor covered the complete cost of the new material and installation, with a no-quibble check for $2300 after I sent them a couple photos and description of the calamity!

Based on my horror story, I would strongly suggest that you contact the best upholstery shop you can find that perhaps specializes in convertible tops, work with them to get the correct raw material, have them purchase that material and custom-make a new top for you.  Now you have a single point who can make on-the-spot modifications and adjustments and will then stand behind their work.

Ray Melton  1957 300C cvt in Las Cruces, NM

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On 5/20/2022 8:56 AM, Dan Plotkin wrote:

Rich-

Among the leading suppliers of correct factory convertible tops is Key Mfg. I have one on my 63 Impala. I’d look no further.

https://keeautotop.com/

 

Danny Plotkin

 

From: chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of William Huff
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 12:18 AM
To: Myron Plotkin <plotkin_associates@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Rick King <rickking952@xxxxxxxxx>; 300 Club <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: {Chrysler 300} Convt top

 

My guy here in Florida made one for my 1970 300 from scratch and reused the rear glass.

 

Bill Huff

 

On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 9:52 AM Myron Plotkin <plotkin_associates@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I would try legendary. 

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On May 18, 2022, at 8:21 PM, Rick King <rickking952@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:



High everyone. need a recommendation on where to get a convertible top for my 64 K. Thanks in advance

 

Rick King

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