RE: {Chrysler 300} FW: Chrysler 300 1964

J. Grady probably knows for sure, but I think the 62 405hp short ram engine probably used a similar or same cam as the optional 60-61 400hp factory engines and it was considerably more radical than the standard version. Intended for racing – street drivability would be poor - poor low end performance, not at lot of vacuum, etc.

So J/ramK was NOT a de-rated 62 405hp short ram. 60-62 short rams water heated, exhaust headers similar in dimension but NOT the same as 63-64, no provision for exhaust heat as Don mentioned in an earlier email plus other dimensional differences.

63-64 390hp ram engine designed for street use and good drivability – which it delivers when properly tuned – with a STOCK solid cam (or close equivalent hydraulic cam conversion). And a pretty good wallup under full throttle as well - if you can keep from shredding the tires in the process – which the late George Riehl used to demonstrate most aptly.

Carl B.

From: Rich Barber
Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2022 1:44 PM
To: 'Val Jeffers'
Cc: 'Noel Hastalis'; 'Allan Klotz'; 'Chrysler300'
Subject: RE: {Chrysler 300} FW: Chrysler 300 1964

Hi, Val:

Agreed—That’s why I put the “?” in there. I think the dimensions and interference issues would be the same.

Further wondering why the 405 HP ’62 short ram engines were derated to 390 HP in the J’s & K’s. Different cam or other hardware? Credibility issue? Insurance issue? Interference with marketing of hemi and max wedge-engined Plymouths and Dodges? I’ve even seen literature that indicated one could order a hemi engine in a Chrysler—but no indication any were ever produced. Pity.

Ahh, sweet mysteries of life in the fast lane.

Rich Barber

Brentwood CA

From: 'Val Jeffers' via Chrysler 300 Club International <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2022 4:49 AM
To: Rich Barber <c300@xxxxxxx>
Cc: Noel Hastalis <cpaviper@xxxxxxxxxxx>; Allan Klotz <allan.klotz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Chrysler300 <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: {Chrysler 300} FW: Chrysler 300 1964

To my knowledge long rams were not available on 62’s. I also think the short rams were supposedly dealer installed ?

Thanks,

Val Jeffers

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On Aug 2, 2022, at 1:35 AM, Rich Barber <c300@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Noel & All:

I recall the meet, the car, the young woman owner and her father who had helped prepare the car—all from TX. I think the car was concours judged.

Amazingly, their original FirePower 360 engine had been equipped with short rams. The outlet piping of the original boosted master cylinder had been re-routed downward and the horizontal outlet plugged. This left about 3/8” clearance between the LH ram assembly and the MC plug. I have a picture of same “somewhere”.

So, this brings up a question I have on a ’62 300 with a long(?) ram optional engine—if ever one existed. Did they use the remote MC then as was later used on J’s & K’s? Inquiring minds want to know.

Rich Barber
Brentwood, CA

From: chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Noel Hastalis
Sent: Monday, August 1, 2022 6:20 PM
To: Allan Klotz <allan.klotz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Chrysler300 <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: {Chrysler 300} FW: Chrysler 300 1964

Hello Allan,

Here are photos of a beautiful '64 300-K Silver Special that came to our Fall 2012 Golden (Denver), Colorado 300 Club Meet - attached.

Noel

On 08/01/2022 2:33 AM Allan Klotz <allan.klotz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi
One of my friends has bought the car on the photos below. Somebody has told him that it is a 300 Silver Special. The paint code is 229. Can anyone confirm if it is a Silver Special or tell me what else it can be?
Your assistance is highly appreciated.
Thanks
Allan

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