Re: {Chrysler 300} 2903S geometry quiz
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Re: {Chrysler 300} 2903S geometry quiz



hi
just observation , the fully closed aspect is not critical ignore it on that end of it , still  chokes if not closed , better open a bit anyway .. 
many ( better) carb set ups describe putting a certain size drill in there to hold choke NOT fully closed. when setting   , that matches the sides too 
Dont look for more precision  in  this than it has . It is quite  crude  as has bern discussed . 
— in particular temp of choke coil and  so position of choke cold is inherently erratic (“ bend the rod, “ ambient temp, calibration of rod / zero point at coil adjustment end at coil lever  at 70F to temp as it warms   etc )   .Rate it opens at … all variables 
clearly fast idle gotta work right , and fully closed end precision is just not required . But fast idle has to work 
What IS required and hard to get is they both pull off as  best  you can get it at same time, at same rate  . That involves heat risers too 
Very much so . Maybe measure temp of carb base with IR gun on warmup — has to match during warmup or you get nowhere 
If one goes off high idle before other you get loping and stalls


Another aspect ( here goes John, he cant resist  ) is vacuum advance on these is manifold vacuum not ported (!!) must be only car like that on earth, you get full vacuum advance at idle (!) then goes away, (that  slows motor rpm off idle if it drops  (!) then   it   comes back at higher rpm . Dead wrong , why there is ported vacuum on every non ram car made , except  some corvettes with 290 cam ( no vacuum there  anyway) 
( look up how ported works and why —if not familiar - great idea)

 Vacuum comes smoothly as you open carb , rpm rises port is exposed — it us on top of throttle plate  no vacuum to speak of or low at idle . Co ordinated by design with idle screw typical opening . Designs vary , impacts mileage 

So per fsm you do all this with vac off , then redo to lower rpm ( I guess) when you reconnect .
Trying to think — why this air  valve ? ? I think they picked special carb with air valves , no idle screw on butterfly , to avoid interaction across throttle linkage setting idle by idle screws  ? I mean why else?
They depend  on counting turns of air valve opening  to natch sides      but then you cannot have ported vacuum slots that work  right  ,     as idle air is bypassing throttle plates just off idle through the air valves. — on regular setup that flow at throttle edge in front of port is a critical part of ignition advance action below 2500 rpm Here , vacuum to the ignition  just off idle charges little , maybe they fixed somewhat by special metering rods ? dont  know.
Do know it is not right , really 

I got into similar quandary , what IS fast idle RPM? you saw in F FSM ,I  Quote ; “ There is no specification for fast idle RPM “ —- right

Electric chokes really help as they are far more likely to track side  to side , imho THE problem (as designed )

 electric eliminate about ten erratic variables     , only downside  is eliminating the suffering purists love .

Noel has noted  how  he does fine without erratic carb heat risers ( me too ) he has more miles by a  factor of  ten ( guess )than anyone in a ram 300 today   — his chokes are / can be set to track no doubt ,consistent rate under hood  warming  , also set so so fast idle can be lived with . Much more stable , slower warmup is much less of an  issue than flooding stalling , unequal pull off , overheated carbs due to stuck or unequal heat risers , melted ram floors etc  
To me ,—  just don't want  that , or risk of it 
Not driving  a 300 in 2026 at 20 degrees either . 

YMMV 

PS Next build if I ever get there , AVS carbs ,,idle screws , make bell crank linkage adjustable at ends for that  ,or Lokar  pull cables ,  ported vacuum , electric  choke , water heat in J plenum , no connection to exhaust manifold , Use “uni sync “ to balance carb air flow  Someday .. in a blue F waiting for  it .. 

On Jan 9, 2026, at 12:15 PM, John Nowosacki <jsnowosacki@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:



I'll try to make this short, but complete.
Referring to page 24 of the fuel system section Group 14 of the 1960 Chrysler manual on the 2903S carb adjustments, section 23, carb adjustments, part 'a' Fast idle adjustment, paragraph 2, reference figure 34.
If I make the adjustment of the fast idle connector rod to make the fast idle adjusting screw line up with the index mark on the cam when the choke valve is closed, then the adjusting screw never leaves the cam when I put the choke valve in the wide open (vertical) position.  The idle never comes down to just being controlled by just the air bleed screws.  If I adjust the rod so that the screw falls off the cam when the choke is wide open, it will not line up with the index mark when the choke is closed.  Is the screw supposed to stay on the cam all the time?  I do not think so.  It's called a 'fast idle' cam for a reason, right?  I can't seem to get enough range on the movement of the cam from moving the choke valve from full closed to full open to get the fast idle screw off the cam when the choke is wide open and also line up with the index mark when fully closed.  
I'm defaulting to making sure the fast idle screw is not touching the fast idle cam when the choke valve is vertical/wide open, and just living with the fact that the screw does not align with the index mark when closed, and just adjust the screw to get the fast idle speed on cold start that works for the car.  Am I missing something?

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