
Re: Playing with an idea
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Re: Playing with an idea
- From: "Dave Casey" <dcasey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 00:16:17 -0500
I believe it is an accurate statement that a 383 and 440 cost about the same
to build. However, I would expect a 440 would cost more to acquire than a
383 (but that doesn't mean there aren't deals out there).
More expensive big blocks to build are the 361, 413, and 426W because
they're not nearly as common. The result is that you end up paying somewhere
around $400 for a set of cast pistons (not sure if that's still true, been
awhile since I bought some for the 413). 383 and 440 pistons are much easier
to come by (you can even get them from Summit, unlike the others).
All the other wear items except the valley pan are interchangeable so they
cost the same.
One thing to be aware of if you build a "backup" motor is head differences
from year to year. The threaded hole locations in the heads (and thus the
accessory brackets) changed in the 67-68 timeframe. Someone who knows for
sure could chime in and clarify. If you want to have an easy swap, you need
to use heads from a similar era. Hopefully someone out there has a list of
which is which. The ever popular "906" heads are the later style with a
freeze plug in the end. The early heads ("452" ?) don't have freeze plugs.
The really early heads only have 4 bolt bosses for the valve covers.
You should also know that some blocks aren't drilled and tapped for motor
mounts required by certain models. Specifically, 65 C-body and 67-68 A-body
big blocks use bosses on the driver's side other than the standard ears used
by the other body styles. If you have a B-body, then there's no worries.
There might also be differences in the water pump housing depending on where
your donor motor comes from.
As far as differences from other makes, the only "special" things I can
think of about big block Mopars that not everybody has dealt with before is
the rear main seal design and the lifter valley pan, and even those may not
be completely unique concepts. My engine building experience is mostly
limited to Mopars and small block Fords.
Dave Casey
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jacob Fox" <imfast101@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "1962 to 1965 Mopar" <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 6:04 PM
Subject: Playing with an idea
Thinking about getting another 383 block. An building/rebuilding it outside
of my car so I can still drive what I have and take my time. Never messed
with Mopar motors so a couple questions:
1) would it be more expensive/cheaper to rebuild a 383 than other big
blocks? (I wanna 383 to keep car original but not necessary)
2) are 383 parts and rebuild kits hard to come by?
3) any special knowledge needed for a Mopar versus another motor? Not tryin
to go crazy with horsepower or run drags. Just cruise around town on highway
and sound decent.
4) does anyone know someone/where I can get one cheap? Maybe someone has one
rebuilt already that would save me time :-)
I kindve wanna backup motor so I can pull mine out when it fails put other
in and build another one...
Sent from my iPhone
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