One of the starters was already on the car when I bought it but I switched to a scattershield and another I bought on e-bay. If I was to guess, I'd say they were Dakota starters. I would think they would be a similar design to the MP one, but others on here may know for sure. Gary > Great, but which small starter are you referring to, the 5.9 dakota truck > starter or the MP? Or are both the same one? Thanks for the help. >