Re: discs

[John Mopar <dodgepolara500@xxxxxxxxx>]

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I installed a Stainless Steel Brake Disc kit in my 64 Polara. While I dislike the look of the GM master cylinder, the kit went it flawlessly and works well. Is there a reason you don't like to the Ford And GM stuff other than it is Ford and GM? I like it since I can get parts from the local auto store.

Prior to the disk brake kit, i was terrified to drive the car in heavy traffic or at speed on the freeway. I had to leave a huge gap between me and the car in front of me in order to stop. When I did leave the gap, a car would inevitably scoot in front of me. It made driving the car a chore and very nerve racking. I grew up driving cars with drum brakes, but today people drive faster with less distance between them.

John
 
1964 Dodge Polara 500 Convertible 383


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From: ntolerance <ntolerance@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 8:02:31 PM
Subject: RE: discs


Couldnt agree with you more Don. Friend of mine has a 67 Coronet that 
runs 12.20's in 100 degree weather and has 10" drums all the way around. 
Driving on the street, youd never know it.

I went with discs on my 65 well.....because they were in the trunk of 
the car. Parts came from a diplomat squad car. Spindles, rotors, 
calipers brackets, porportioning valve and light weight master.

There is alot of heated discussions about using the later car disc brake 
parts. Without going into it all, I will just say that a friend of mine 
did this moons ago on a 65 Satellite. (back in the early 90's) Car 
originally had a straight axle, and he went to the brake parts from an 
84 Fury. I couldnt discern any difference in handling from any other 
from suspension. The car didnt have a sway bar, but then again, it didnt 
have one from the factory.

I dislike the disc conversion kits that use Gm and ford parts. For the 
money, I would rather just run the diplomat parts. There are alot of 
these cars still in junk yards. (same goes for cars like the cordoba, 
magnum, 75 and up charger, 5th avenue, and Grand fury. All these parts 
CAN be put onto an early B body) For the price of the kits out there, I 
can save alot of $$$ and use that $$ for something else on my car.

Just my 2 cents.

Doc.

Don Dulmage wrote:
> 
> 
> I remember when discs first came . here where it snows everybody hated 
> them The front wheel would lock up in a snow covered road stop and we 
> would slide with no steering. Now they have antilock which keep the 
> wheels from locking since we have learned that there is such a thing as 
> too much braking as well. New cars have reduced rear brake sizes to 
> laughable  in fact I think they might as well chuck them as they are 
> about useless. So we reduce beaking ower with antilocks so it doesnt 
> skid etcetc. Sort of like wearing high heels and bending down at every 
> door way. A good well set up set of metallic linings work well. It may 
> not be what everyone wants but they cetainly are not unsafe.  Sometimes  
> and more often than not the disc kits are crap and work worse than the 
> original drums. Especially the ones for A bodys usung GM truck parts. 
> some that i have worked with for customers have had the wrong sze master 
> and not worked well. We wre able to cure it with a Cuda Challenger 
> master intalation.One new kit i saw siezed when hot.  We had to change 
> thecalipher to a different style fo piston (aluminum instead of 
> pheneolic.)
> Drum brakes of the bendix design (63 and later Mopars) are self 
> engergizing , something disc brakes dont have. Biggest advantage of 
> discs is the ability to get rid of heat. In a road racing situation 
> there is no question they are neceassary as brakes can run red hot. but 
> for the occasionally driven street machine or even the one stop only 
> drag cars in the 12s or 11s i dont feel they are necessary. Discs are 
> also slower because they drag all the time. I have seen claims of 2 
> tenths. I have four friends who have had airheart disc failures on their 
> race cars and gone of the end of the track two of these cars were 
> converted to this half baked set up where YOU glue the pucks to the 
> pistons. I think if I was to convert a B body i would search out a 69 to 
> 72 B body and swap all the parts direct. Otherwise I do not like these 
> mickey mouse made up half you know what combos that only bleed money 
> from my friends wallets and dont work right. I HATE stuff that doesnt 
> work "with a passion."
> Don
> Don 
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