jeff, please dont ever post anything like that again. I am feeling quite depressed now. The two-door post belvedere with the lopped off quarter took the cake. its the same feeling i always get at the local junkyard when i am walking thru it, a combination of respect and awe and frustration and depression. if i were as rich as Bill Gates i would have a squad of guys restoring every mopar i could find neal zimmerman, eugene oregon