Re: New Chrysler Corp. commercial

[Spicemanii@xxxxxxx]

Wait a minute, the GTO was not a muscle car, it was an option package, if you want to get technicle? So, the 64 GTO was not the first muscle car, it was the first muscle package for Pontiac on the LeMans platform. The 55 Chrysler C300 was a muscle car line, not an option package.  So, backfire away!!    joe machado and son with 2 60 Polara D500 Ram Induction convertibles, 3 69 Daytonas, and oh, 4 61 Imperials, a 62 and 63 Imperial. Imperials, the Luxury Performance cars. And many other assorted Mopars.


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From: Leslie Thrasher <redred1@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 5:35 am
Subject: Re: New Chrysler Corp. commercial




ell, the 55 C300 w/2-4's & 300 horses sounds muscular to me.  They outrun
verything in the world on the beach at Daytona.  Even Pontiac had a 2X4 on
heir '56, kinda muscular, and even Chevy went injected in '57.  As a kid
rowing up in the 50's these cars sure impressed me with their muscle.  I
hink the GTO came late to the party in 64, just in time to meet up with the
ew second generation  Hemi.  Oh, by the way, I consider those Max Wedge,
13 & 426, to be pretty muscular in 62 & 63. Just my
pinion!!!!!<j_ozolins@xxxxxxxxxxx>
o: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
c: <poncho@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
ent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 3:27 PM
ubject: RE: New Chrysler Corp. commercial

Yes, the word "precursor" is very important there.
I won't argue that these high-powered cars weren't "muscular," but these
recursors did not kick off the Muscle Car phenomenon of the 60's. That's
hat I'm using as a definition of a Muscle Car. Not just power to weight
atio.
That's where I have to call B.S. when Chrysler claims to have invented the
usclecar.
hrysler, Ford, and the rest of GM had to catch up to Pontiac after the
ntroduction of the GTO.
nly Pontiac had the foresight and the guts to take the risk, and once it
roved popular, and profitable, did the others climb on board.

im O. (I invented the Pepperoni Pizza.)


>From: Dan McCormack <mcwheels@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: New Chrysler Corp. commercial
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:48:57 +0000

>From the Wikipedia Encyclopedia. Notice the last sentence:

The Studebaker Golden Hawk was a two-door pillarless hardtop coupe type
car produced by the Studebaker Corporation of South Bend, Indiana
between 1956 and 1958. The Golden Hawk took the basic shape of the
1953-on Champion/Commander Starliner hardtop coupe but added a large,
almost vertical eggcrate grille and raised hoodline in place of the
earlier car's swooping, pointed nose, as well as a raised trunklid and
befinned rear quarters.

That grille and raised hood were to take a larger engine, Packard's big
352 in³ (5.8 L) V8 at 275 bhp (205 kW). This big, powerful engine in
such a light car gave the Golden Hawk a phenomenal power-to-weight ratio
(and thus performance) for the time; of 1956 American production cars,
the Golden Hawk was second only to Chrysler's 300 B by that measure -
and the expensive Chrysler was a road-legal NASCAR racing car. The
Golden Hawk can be considered, like the Chryslers, a precursor to the
muscle cars of the 1960s


Jim Ozolins wrote:
 >
 > Crap! I didn't know the '64 GTO was a Chrysler!
 > I was interested by that commercial, too.
 >
 > Did they take credit for inventing the internet, as well?
 >
 > Jim Ozolins
 > '64 Valiant


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