Re: 727 trans oil and 63 hestiation

[Don Dulmage <big-d@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Generally 7 qtz imp. if the converter is dry as well.  After you drive it 
for 10 minutes recheck as  fair amount will migrate to the tailstock ansd 
stay there in all the little pockets.
Sorry about the imperial. Up here where winter is long and it is real cold 
we used to drink a lot of rum to keep warm. The smaller American gallon  was 
just not enough for us to get warm so we went to the imperial gallon (160 fl 
oz which is also exaclly 10 lbs of water.)
Now that we are a more reifined  group having lost our pioneer spirit we 
switched to metric a few years ago since only a litre is needed now to keep 
warm (global warmmg  of course!!.)
DISCLAIMER This explaination comes from an abstainer of achohal so may not 
be 100% accruate but just his opinion)
BTW I and my frends now use synthetic in our trans as it extends the life 
under hard use considerably. In fact in many cases it ends completely wear 
related failures (front stator support sealing ring failure and therefore 
high clutch failure as well. ). i am not a synthetic proponent normally but 
this is one place it has payed off well. i have gone into detail before of 
how and why we got there so i wont again.

Hesitation in a 63 polara.
WIwith fast idle as well.
The fast idle as mentioned is caused by the fast idle cam which is part of 
the choke system.    I suspect the choke is not coming off.  Why? Because 
the carb heat crossover passage is plugged. Aso since the manifold then is 
now  no longer heated or at least running  as hot as it was desgined to when 
originally the carb wa calibrated when the car was deisgned it requires a 
different mixture so would proabaly hesitate even if the choke was 
disconnected.  (Just undo the clip on the choke spring rod and let the choke 
flop open if you want to try it.
Since mopars, which were always known for great gas mileage, are jetted near 
the edge  they have no extra to deal with a cold manifold.
How do you know if you choke is coming of fast enough?  (which also tells do 
i have enough carb heat from the manifold heat passage) Here is the tune up 
mans rule of thumb from the days of chokes and carbs. The choke should be 
full off. (able to reach low idle or base idle for instance in 5 minutes 
from start up . Regardless of outside temp since once the engine starts it 
is on engne temp and could care less about outside temperatures. (Just like 
us in a house . We shower and bath  when it is -20F outside and it doesnt 
bother us because we are on house temp not outside temp.  I know there is 
cold air flowing over the motor but after the rad gets warm even that is not 
totally cold and it would take more air than we could push to cool the motor 
of enough to bother a propely working choke heat system.
Lastly the newer gasoline does not really like running on the old jetting 
and i often jet up one or two sizes to bring the calobration back in line.
Accel pump is easliy checked. open the choke and pump the throttle.(ENGINE 
NOT RUNNIG OF COURSE) You should see a strong stream from the accel pump 
nozzles. If not replace the pump (actually overhaul the carb.  Dont do half 
a job.  Mom, who was a [poet  always told me.  "Whatever you do do with your 
might. Things done by halfs are never done right. )
I have seen where all of these factors came into play on more than one 
engine with some age on it. .
To fix the carb heat the manifold must be removesd. (A series engnes need 
the antifreeze drained frst. B/RB Series dont  since it is a dry manifold. 
Find the heat passage in the centre port of the manifold . it will be 
plugged with black sooty carbon. Using a big screwdriver that you dont care 
about do whatever you need to do to open this passage up from both sides. So 
you can blow air through it easily. it wouldnt hurt to hot tank the mnifold 
but i reasonble effort can be made using strong solvent to wash the port 
about several times.
Of course for summer cars with big hp we plug this passage and rejet and 
choke?( approx 55 hp so Bill Bagshaw said on the dyno)  Choke? What choke? 
The only time we choke is when we take too big a bite from our burgers!
Don

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "harry skalla" <moweepea@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: 727 trans oil


> Thanks Stevan
> Butch
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Stevan Miner" <miner@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 4:44 AM
> Subject: Re: 727 trans oil
>
>
> > Hi Butch,
> > I start with 4 quarts. Start the car in neutral, run it through the gears 
> > once, shut it off and add a couple more. Repeat the process and bring the 
> > level up to just over the add mark.
> > Stevan Miner
> > Miner Auto Service
> > Winnebago MN
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > From: "harry skalla" <moweepea@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 4:40 PM
> > To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: 727 trans oil
> >
> > > Clear DayHi all, getting ready to fill my tranny up , does anyone know 
> > > how many quarts goes into a stock 727 with stock pan?? Thanks,
> > > Butch
> > >
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