Re: hardened valve seats

[Leslie Thrasher <redred1@xxxxxxxxxx>]

I remember a Sunoco station in Glasgow, KY that had a dial on the pump where
you could select from about 4 octane ratings.  Don't remember the octane
number but do remember the highest was labeled as TCP, purple in color, and
would light a fire in the 49 Merc Flathead in our 34 Ford.  It was so good
we nicknamed it "Tom Cat Piss".  Time frame was mid 50's.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rich Kinsley" <rlkinsley@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 2:55 PM
Subject: RE: hardened valve seats


>
>
> spigot2039@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >
> > We used to look for the top level Sunoco (260?) for high octane in
> > Mopars back then. Per the text snip below, that I assume is right, Amoco
> > white gas did not have lead but instead used other additives to provide
> > the valve protection.
> >
> > "Back in the '60s, when most gas was leaded, Amoco had this special
> > super premium which was not leaded and was therefore safe for some uses
> > where leaded was not, and it also was much less likely to foul plugs in
> > motors which had a severe plug fouling problem, such as the early
> > Porsche 911 (I had a late '66 for a while in the '70s) and Ferrari V12
> > motors of the pre-smog control era, so it was much sought after by
> > owners of high-performance machinery, including modified American
> > "super" cars. I doubt that it would be any different from the current 93
> > octane unleaded in practical applications, if it were still on the
> > market, except that some of the other additives that Amoco used instead
> > of lead have now been banned, too.
> >
> > Addendum: Amoco's early unleaded premium is NOT the same as the "white
> > gas" meant for lanterns, camp stoves, and torches, which was a form of
> > light distillate, similar to the cheap fuel sold for specially equipped
> > farm tractors during the Depression and WWII years. It was almost as
> > dangerous to use the Amoco premium for those purposes as any other
> > gasoline because of the explosion danger and the other additives."
> > http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforum/archive/index.php/t-47287.html
> >
> > Gary H.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > >From: David orr <fe2orr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > >
> > >I have wondered about this for years as when I had my first new car in
> > >1964,
> > >a 383 4bbl. 4spd. , that I drove at the drags most every week end  or
> > >from
> > >N.C. to Pa. other week end. I used AMOCO white gas unleaded it worked
> > >fine.
> > >what is the diffenance between the unleaded of 1964 and the unleaded of
> > >now.
> > >I use 93 octane with an additive in my 64 426 street wedge with no
> > >problems.
> > >dave O
> ====================================================================
> I was in CA back  then and I don't remember that we had AMOCO out there.
> I think Chevron was their counterpart. That's pretty interesting.
>
>
> Rich Kinsley '64 Dodge Polara 4dr 318poly w/goodies
>
>
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