Wow Bill, that's great! Thanks for all the info. This email is a keeper! Bill M 65 Coronet 500 'vert On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Bill Watson <wwatson6@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Engine numbers appeared on cars long before serial numbers (Vehicle > Identification Numbers, these days). Which is why many state/provincial > motor vehicle departments used the engine number to identify the vehicle. > American-built Fords used the engine number to identify the car from the > beginning in 1903 right through to 1948. For the Chrysler Corporation, the > 1926 models were the first the engine number and the serial number were not > the same. > > In the case of Chrysler Corporation, engines began using the Engineering > Dept.'s model number as the engine number prefix in 1926. As the model > number was (with a few exceptions) model year unique, you could identify the > make, model and year of the vehicle. During 1957, when Chrysler began the > move from make unique engines to corporate engines, the Engineering Dept's > model year letter replaced the car line model number. The change began in > 1958 in Canada. > > The Engineering Department's model year letters were - A, B, C, D, E, F, G, > H, J, K, L, M, P, R, S, T, and V. "A" years were 1924-25, 1942, 1965 and > 1982. Combined model years were 1924-25, 1946-48 and 1951-52. The > letter "Q" was used once - for the 1960 Valiant. For the years 1973 > through 1979, the last digit of the model year was used in some cases > instead of the model year letter. > > When a model number was used for a second or third Engineering Dept. model > year, an "*" was placed after the model number. The 1934 (model year J) > Chrysler Custom Imperial Airflow model CW was continued into 1935 (model > year K) with very few changes and the same model number, which became CW*. > > All 1964 engine numbers start with the letter "V", followed by the engine > size (2 or 3 digits) and the date it was assembled - in the U.S. Engines > were also stamped with "HP" or "MP", when needed. Canadian engines did not > use the U.S. layout until the 1966 model year. > > Chrysler pushbutton transmissions used two cables when the transmission had > a park position. No park position - one cable. Thus all cast iron > Powerflite and Torqueflite units have one cable. The A904 in 1960-61 came > in two versions - Valiant/Lancer (park sprag - 2 cables) and Plymouth/Dart > (no park sprag - 1 cable). The same held for the 1962 A-727 - > Plymouth/Dart/Polara (park sprag - 2 cables) and Dodge 880/Chrysler/Imperial > (no park sprag - 1 cable). And as 1965 Torqueflite units had a park > position, 2 cables were used. > > As for the 1965 transmissions, the following were ball-and-trunion models > and where they were used - > > A-904 : > 2466 120 - A body 170-cid > 2466 119 - A body 225-cid > 2466 118 - B & C body 225-cid & A body 273-cid > 2466 122 - B body 273-cid > 2466 123 - A body 273-cid > > A-727 : > 2466 111 - C body except HP & MP engine - early (before engine 78085C in > CDA) > 2466 112 - C body 361-cid & Chrysler (early) (before engine 70128C in CDA) > 2466 113 - C body HP & MP engines - early (before engine 66403C in CDA) > 2466 125 - Imperial (early) > 2466 134 - B & C body - 318-cid, 225-cid HD, & Taxi - early (before VIN > 181816 in CDA) > 2466 135 - B body with 273-cid > 2466 144 - A body 273-cid, 4-bbl carb > 2466 145 - A body 273-cid RHD > > 1965 Torqueflite with slip yoke output shaft - > A-727 : > 2466 147 - C1,C2,C3 - late (from engine 70128C in CDA) > 2466 148 - C body HP & MP engines - late (from engine 66403C in CDA) > 2466 149 - Imperial (late) > 2466 152 - B & C body - 318-cid HD & Taxi - late (from VIN 181816 in CDA) > 2466 166 - C body except HP & MP engine - late (from engine 78085C in CDA) > > Bill > Vancouver, BC ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html.