RE: Convert points to electic

[62pluckedchicken@xxxxxxxxx]

OK, I think I got what side I should be working on :)
in the picture 
http://www.frappr.com/?a=viewphoto&id=5591207&pid=10953795

The rod labeled "F" is the choke rod.. right?

and the spring is under the round cap?

quick question...if "worse came to worst", and someone pushed up on the 
rod to keep the choke closed, while some else turned the ignition, it 
would help get the car started?



Don Dulmage wrote:
> 
> Nope opposite end of the brass shaft. You can see that little round cap 
> sitting on it and the rod coming up from the manifold to the brass choke 
> 
> rod. Dont panic we can get this. hang in their. Don
>  Don
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <62pluckedchicken@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 12:00 AM
> Subject: RE: Convert points to electic
> 
> 
> >
> > Thanks Don...
> > I'll give it a whirl.
> >
> > Just to make sure I got the parts right (I told you I was ignorant)
> >
> > do I have the parts label correctly in this photo?
> > http://www.frappr.com/?a=viewphoto&id=5591207&pid=10953360
> >
> > In case I can't get this going, has anyone in the Omaha area heard good
> > or bad about T & M automotive?
> >
> >
> > Don Dulmage wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok it doesnt look too bad. Unhook the choke rod coming up to the
> >> manifold
> >> and remove the choke spring from the manifold. You wil see it is
> >> adjustable.
> >> lossen the nut and give it just enough more to help the choke close a
> >> bit
> >> more tightly or firmly. that may be all you need. Reinstall and we will
> >> try
> >> from there. Don
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: <62pluckedchicken@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 8:44 AM
> >> Subject: RE: Convert points to electic
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Haven't started the car this morning
> >> >
> >> > Here a picture before I do anything, the car is stone cold.
> >> > http://www.frappr.com/?a=viewphoto&id=5591207&pid=10952245
> >> >
> >> > Here's a picture after pushing down the gas pedal and releasing (no 
> >> > key,
> >> > no attempt to crank)
> >> > http://www.frappr.com/?a=viewphoto&id=5591207&pid=10952246
> >> >
> >> > It does close... good news?
> >> >
> >> > 62pluckedchicken@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> will do.. Thanks
> >> >>
> >> >> BTW the car does idle correctly.. when first started a fast idle, and
> >> >> after about five minutes or when the temp gauge is a quarter up, I tap
> >> >> on the gas and the idle slows
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Don Dulmage wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > So tommorow when its cold open the hood. remove the air cleaner.
> >> >> > without
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > touching enything. go inside the car and push the preadl to the 
> >> >> > floor
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > release it. Now where is the choke? open or shut?
> >> >> > don
> >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> >> > From: <62pluckedchicken@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> > To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> > Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 9:40 AM
> >> >> > Subject: RE: Convert points to electic
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > It's a 2bbl.. I imagine the original carb.. not much has changed 
> >> >> > > on
> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > > car (Stromberg ???)
> >> >> > > Don Dulmage wrote:
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> YEs definately.
> >> >> > >> What carb is on it?
> >> >> > >> Don
> >> >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> >> > >> From: <62pluckedchicken@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> > >> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> > >> Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 10:42 PM
> >> >> > >> Subject: RE: Convert points to electic
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Today when I was trying to start it, after days of being idle, 
> >> >> > >> > I
> >> >> > >> > actually did put a little gas in the carb, just to see if it 
> >> >> > >> > would
> >> >> > >> > fire.. and it did.  just wouldn't keep going 'cause there was 
> >> >> > >> > no
> >> >> > >> > gas
> >> >> > >> > after what I put in the carb burned up...
> >> >> > >> > so this is a choke problem?
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Don Dulmage wrote:
> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> It is highly unlikely that changing the ignition will change 
> >> >> > >> >> the
> >> >> > >> >> starting.
> >> >> > >> >> Elctronic ignitions has really only one big advantage. The 
> >> >> > >> >> points
> >> >> > >> >> dont
> >> >> > >> >> wear
> >> >> > >> >> and the dwelll doesnt change with time so the engine stays in
> >> >> > >> >> tune (or
> >> >> > >> >> literly in time)longer , in fact timing wise excluding timing
> >> >> > >> >> chain
> >> >> > >> >> wear
> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> indefinatley.
> >> >> > >> >> Want to know if the choke is the problem .?squirt a little gas 
> >> >> > >> >> in
> >> >> > >> >> the
> >> >> > >> >> carb
> >> >> > >> >> mouth before you start it after the next long sit. if it fires
> >> >> > >> >> immediatley
> >> >> > >> >> theh you know for sure thatis the problem.
> >> >> > >> >> I spent a life time repairing chokes  or so it seemed. In one
> >> >> > >> >> dealership
> >> >> > >> >> i
> >> >> > >> >> felt I did at least one per day. In average it probably was.
> >> >> > >> >> Don
> >> >> > >> >>  <mikelj@xxxxxxx>
> >> >> > >> >> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> > >> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 11:42 AM
> >> >> > >> >> Subject: RE: Convert points to electic
> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> > >> >> > I initially had a starting problem like that with mine.  I 
> >> >> > >> >> > did
> >> >> > >> >> > two
> >> >> > >> >> > things,
> >> >> > >> >> > sprayed some Liquid Wrench on the choke linkage stuff, and 
> >> >> > >> >> > then
> >> >> > >> >> > read
> >> >> > >> >> > my
> >> >> > >> >> > owners manual about starting it!  I have had too many Fords 
> >> >> > >> >> > I
> >> >> > >> >> > guess,
> >> >> > >> >> > when
> >> >> > >> >> > they are cold you pump the pedal all the way down twice to
> >> >> > >> >> > start.
> >> >> > >> >> > That
> >> >> > >> >> > just floods the Ball and Ball 2 bbl., the manual says to 
> >> >> > >> >> > push
> >> >> > >> >> > the
> >> >> > >> >> > pedal
> >> >> > >> >> > down half way and hold it while cranking.  That has worked 
> >> >> > >> >> > like
> >> >> > >> >> > a
> >> >> > >> >> > charm.
> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> > >> >> > BTW, the #1382 Petronix unit says 383, 426, 440 engines with
> >> >> > >> >> > Autolite
> >> >> > >> >> > or
> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> > >> >> > Prestolite distributors.  Guess you need to check what kind 
> >> >> > >> >> > of
> >> >> > >> >> > distributor
> >> >> > >> >> > the '62 361 2 bbl. has.
> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> > >> >> > Mike in New Mexico
> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> > >> >> >> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> > >> >> >> From: 62pluckedchicken@xxxxxxxxx
> >> >> > >> >> >> Subject: RE: Convert points to electic
> >> >> > >> >> >> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:30:25 +0000
> >> >> > >> >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> >> Thanks Mike,
> >> >> > >> >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> >> I don't know if it'll fix the starting problem either.. but 
> >> >> > >> >> >> I
> >> >> > >> >> >> thought
> >> >> > >> >> >> I
> >> >> > >> >> >> do it anyway
> >> >> > >> >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> >> weird thing about the starting problem, it'll start right 
> >> >> > >> >> >> up
> >> >> > >> >> >> if
> >> >> > >> >> >> left
> >> >> > >> >> >> overnight.. but a couple days without running, it's a b***h 
> >> >> > >> >> >> to
> >> >> > >> >> >> start..
> >> >> > >> >> >> maybe the automatic choke?
> >> >> > >> >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> >> mikelj@xxxxxxx wrote:
> >> >> > >> >> >> >
> >> >> > >> >> >> >
> >> >> > >> >> >> >
> >> >> > >> >> >> > The one I got for my '64 383 2 bbl. is #1382 from 
> >> >> > >> >> >> > Petronix.
> >> >> > >> >> >> > It
> >> >> > >> >> >> > says
> >> >> > >> >> >> > dual points but works for single too. You might also look 
> >> >> > >> >> >> > on
> >> >> > >> >> >> > Jegs.com,
> >> >> > >> >> >> > that is where I bought mine. They are easy to install, 
> >> >> > >> >> >> > but I
> >> >> > >> >> >> > can't
> >> >> > >> >> >> > say
> >> >> > >> >> >> > whether or not it will fix your morning sickness problem.
> >> >> > >> >> >> >
> >> >> > >> >> >> > Mike in New Mexico
> >> >> > >> >> >> >
> >> >> > >> >> >> >
> >> >> > >> >> >> >
> >> >> > >> >> >> >
> >> >> > >> >> >> >
> >> >> > >> >> >> >
> >> >> > >> >> >> >
> >> >> > >> >> >> >
> >> >> > >> >> >> >
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > From: 62pluckedchicken@xxxxxxxxx
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > Subject: Convert points to electic
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:08:03 +0000
> >> >> > >> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > I didn't know whether this would help with my
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > cold-starting
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > problem
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > (if
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > not started every day, it is like it sat for months), 
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > but
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > I was
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > thinking
> >> >> > >> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > of converting from points to electronic ignition.
> >> >> > >> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > Pertronix write ups say even an idiot (like me) can do
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > this,
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > but
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > I'm
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > confused about the kits
> >> >> > >> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > I have a '62 Newport 361 2bbl, the kits availible from
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > YearOne
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > are
> >> >> > >> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > 1. Pertronix Ignitor electronic ignition fits 1962-1973
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > Mopar
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > V8
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > models
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > (except 440 models with the distributor # IBS4014,
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > IBP4002Z, or
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > any
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > car
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > with a single or dual-point Prestolite distributor).
> >> >> > >> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > 2.Pertronix Ignitor electronic ignitions fits 1959-1971
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > Mopar B
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > and
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > RB
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > V8 models with Prestolite dual-point ignition, vacuum
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > advance,
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > with
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > or
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > without tachometer drive.
> >> >> > >> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > I have no idea what "Mopar B" means (b-bodies???) or 
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > can
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > see a
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > part
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > number on my distributor..
> >> >> > >> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > which one is correct for my car?... and can an idiot 
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > (me)
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > do
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > this?
> >> >> > >> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > ----
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > one
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > person -- 
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car 
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > transactions
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > and
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > negotiations as well as other personal messages only to
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > intended
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > practice
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > will
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail 
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > and
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > fine
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > tune
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > >> >> >> > > content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks!
> >> >> > >> >> >> > >
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> >> >> > >> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >> >> >> >
> >> >> > >> >> >> > --
> >> >> > >> >> >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >> >> > >> >> >> >
> >> >> > >> >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> >> ----
> >> >> > >> >> >> Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one
> >> >> > >> >> >> person --
> >> >> > >> >> >> directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions 
> >> >> > >> >> >> and
> >> >> > >> >> >> negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the
> >> >> > >> >> >> intended
> >> >> > >> >> >> recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This 
> >> >> > >> >> >> practice
> >> >> > >> >> >> will
> >> >> > >> >> >> protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and 
> >> >> > >> >> >> fine
> >> >> > >> >> >> tune
> >> >> > >> >> >> the
> >> >> > >> >> >> content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks!
> >> >> > >> >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> >> '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines:
> >> >> > >> >> >> http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html.
> >> >> > >> >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> > >> >> > --
> >> >> > >> >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> > >> >> > ----
> >> >> > >> >> > Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one
> >> >> > >> >> > person --
> >> >> > >> >> > directly to that person.  I.e., send parts/car transactions 
> >> >> > >> >> > and
> >> >> > >> >> > negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the
> >> >> > >> >> > intended
> >> >> > >> >> > recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This 
> >> >> > >> >> > practice
> >> >> > >> >> > will
> >> >> > >> >> > protect
> >> >> > >> >> > your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune 
> >> >> > >> >> > the
> >> >> > >> >> > content
> >> >> > >> >> > signal to Mopar topic.  Thanks!
> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> > >> >> > '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines:
> >> >> > >> >> > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html.
> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > ----
> >> >> > >> > Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one
> >> >> > >> > person --
> >> >> > >> > directly to that person.  I.e., send parts/car transactions and
> >> >> > >> > negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the
> >> >> > >> > intended
> >> >> > >> > recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice 
> >> >> > >> > will
> >> >> > >> > protect
> >> >> > >> > your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the
> >> >> > >> > content
> >> >> > >> > signal to Mopar topic.  Thanks!
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines:
> >> >> > >> > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html.
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > ----
> >> >> > > Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one 
> >> >> > > person --
> >> >> > > directly to that person.  I.e., send parts/car transactions and
> >> >> > > negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the 
> >> >> > > intended
> >> >> > > recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will
> >> >> > > protect
> >> >> > > your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the
> >> >> > > content
> >> >> > > signal to Mopar topic.  Thanks!
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines:
> >> >> > > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----
> >> > Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person --
> >> > directly to that person.  I.e., send parts/car transactions and
> >> > negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended
> >> > recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will
> >> > protect
> >> > your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content
> >> > signal to Mopar topic.  Thanks!
> >> >
> >> > '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines:
> >> > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> > ----
> > Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person --  
> > directly to that person.  I.e., send parts/car transactions and 
> > negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended 
> > recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will 
> > protect 
> > your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content 
> > signal to Mopar topic.  Thanks!
> >
> > '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines:
> > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html.
> >
> > 
> 


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Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person.  I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic.  Thanks!

'62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines:
http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html.