This goes back a few messages. Don advised to "push", not "stab" the gas pedal 1/2 way down, let up, and engage the starter. I tried that this morning and my 440 fired up running at about 1200 rpm. I tapped it and it came down to 1K until it warmed up completely, then I tapped it and it came down to normal idle. I'd been driving the car every day for awhile, so this may not come as a surprise to anyone except me. I'd been doing all kinds of secret dances and mumbo jumbo to start it in the mornings. /Butch / Ferndale, WA -----Original Message----- From: Don Dulmage [mailto:big-d@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 12:34 PM To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Convert points to electic An easter egg?! Well your in good company. I would be proud look here. That is what they call this Charger. http://www.dasautoblog.com/2009/03/-dodge-charger-am-ring-115-dezibel-ostere ier-und-maggi.html(ostereier) Must be a mopar thing. I meant try alway pumping three like your wife did this morning. I agree the prime thing is unacceptable. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: <62pluckedchicken@xxxxxxxxx> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 10:00 AM Subject: RE: Convert points to electic > > Still seems to me that a couple of days of sitting should not result in > drastic measures to get the car started... > > I know all makes have their quirks, but I had a Eldorado vert that > always started right up after sitting (starting when it was warm was > another story) > > Is the quirk with Stromberg carbs? I thought someone mentioned an > aftermarket carb that didn't have this problem.. > > since I don't drive every day, I hate to have to allocate an extra hour > to get the car started and wash off the gas smell when someone invites > to meet them for lunch ;) > > There must be a better way.. > > BTW: Thank you Don for being so patient with me... I love old cars, and > really fallen in love with Mopars (scares my wife) but have very little > knowledge of the internal workings.. I've learned a ton already, and > look to keep on learning > > Thanks and Happy Easter > Bob > > PS. yeasterday at the store, a 4 or 5 year-old called my car an > easter-egg car... LOL I guess the color is right :) > > Don Dulmage wrote: >> >> Maybe always start it that way. >> Don >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <62pluckedchicken@xxxxxxxxx> >> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 7:51 PM >> Subject: RE: Convert points to electic >> >> >> > >> > well, this morning was not a good test.. I don't now if the car wasn't >> > cold enough from driving it the previous day, but gas was getting to >> > the >> > carb >> > >> > my wife pumped 3 times, I saw gas, and it cranked right up... >> > >> > I would'a responded earlier, but I drove it everywhere today :) >> > >> > kind'a makes the frustration of starting it go away. >> > >> > I'll try again tomorrow and see what happens >> > Bob >> > >> > Don Dulmage wrote: >> >> >> >> Cold >> >> Don >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: <62pluckedchicken@xxxxxxxxx> >> >> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx> >> >> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 8:10 PM >> >> Subject: RE: Convert points to electic >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > Do you men now, when the engines warm, or stone cold? >> >> > >> >> > I'll get my wife to pump it... no pun intended... >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Don Dulmage wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Ok , Plan B. With the choke open do you see gas squiting when you >> >> >> pump >> >> >> the >> >> >> gas pedal? >> >> >> Don >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> From: <62pluckedchicken@xxxxxxxxx> >> >> >> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx> >> >> >> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 5:28 PM >> >> >> Subject: RE: Convert points to electic >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Holding the choke closed doesn't seem to help.. so I didn't take >> >> >> > anything apart... >> >> >> > >> >> >> > It just cranks and cranks and cranks... >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Pouring gas in the carb first time got it to fire, second time to >> >> >> > fire >> >> >> > and run.. now that the engine is warm, it will start first turn, >> >> >> > no >> >> >> > pedal at all >> >> >> > >> >> >> > It would be nice to get it to easiley start when cold (it was 35 >> >> >> > this >> >> >> > morning), but I'm not going to hold my breath.. it seems like a >> >> >> > lot >> >> >> > of >> >> >> > guys here have this problem. Rich suggested I invest in starting >> >> >> > fluid... I think I'll do that... or Maybe I should move south ;) >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Don Dulmage wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The answer to the last question is a YES!. You have it figured >> >> >> >> already. >> >> >> >> That >> >> >> >> will tell you if it will work. You,re too fast for an old dude. >> >> >> >> Not >> >> >> >> really . >> >> >> >> I am iimpresssed. >> >> >> >> Don >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> From: <62pluckedchicken@xxxxxxxxx> >> >> >> >> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx> >> >> >> >> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:26 AM >> >> >> >> Subject: RE: Convert points to electic >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > OK, I think I got what side I should be working on :) >> >> >> >> > in the picture >> >> >> >> > http://www.frappr.com/?a=viewphoto&id=5591207&pid=10953795 >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > The rod labeled "F" is the choke rod.. right? >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > and the spring is under the round cap? >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > quick question...if "worse came to worst", and someone pushed >> >> >> >> > up >> >> >> >> > on >> >> >> >> > the >> >> >> >> > rod to keep the choke closed, while some else turned the >> >> >> >> > ignition, >> >> >> >> > it >> >> >> >> > would help get the car started? >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Don Dulmage wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Nope opposite end of the brass shaft. You can see that little >> >> >> >> >> round >> >> >> >> >> cap >> >> >> >> >> sitting on it and the rod coming up from the manifold to the >> >> >> >> >> brass >> >> >> >> >> choke >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> rod. Dont panic we can get this. hang in their. Don >> >> >> >> >> Don >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> From: <62pluckedchicken@xxxxxxxxx> >> >> >> >> >> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx> >> >> >> >> >> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 12:00 AM >> >> >> >> >> Subject: RE: Convert points to electic >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > Thanks Don... >> >> >> >> >> > I'll give it a whirl. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > Just to make sure I got the parts right (I told you I was >> >> >> >> >> > ignorant) >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > do I have the parts label correctly in this photo? >> >> >> >> >> > http://www.frappr.com/?a=viewphoto&id=5591207&pid=10953360 >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > In case I can't get this going, has anyone in the Omaha >> >> >> >> >> > area >> >> >> >> >> > heard >> >> >> >> >> > good >> >> >> >> >> > or bad about T & M automotive? >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > Don Dulmage wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ok it doesnt look too bad. Unhook the choke rod coming up >> >> >> >> >> >> to >> >> >> >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> >> >> manifold >> >> >> >> >> >> and remove the choke spring from the manifold. You wil see >> >> >> >> >> >> it >> >> >> >> >> >> is >> >> >> >> >> >> adjustable. >> >> >> >> >> >> lossen the nut and give it just enough more to help the >> >> >> >> >> >> choke >> >> >> >> >> >> close >> >> >> >> >> >> a >> >> >> >> >> >> bit >> >> >> >> >> >> more tightly or firmly. that may be all you need. >> >> >> >> >> >> Reinstall >> >> >> >> >> >> and >> >> >> >> >> >> we >> >> >> >> >> >> will >> >> >> >> >> >> try >> >> >> >> >> >> from there. Don >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> >> From: <62pluckedchicken@xxxxxxxxx> >> >> >> >> >> >> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 8:44 AM >> >> >> >> >> >> Subject: RE: Convert points to electic >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > Haven't started the car this morning >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > Here a picture before I do anything, the car is stone >> >> >> >> >> >> > cold. >> >> >> >> >> >> > http://www.frappr.com/?a=viewphoto&id=5591207&pid=10952245 >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > Here's a picture after pushing down the gas pedal and >> >> >> >> >> >> > releasing >> >> >> >> >> >> > (no >> >> >> >> >> >> > key, >> >> >> >> >> >> > no attempt to crank) >> >> >> >> >> >> > http://www.frappr.com/?a=viewphoto&id=5591207&pid=10952246 >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > It does close... good news? >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > 62pluckedchicken@xxxxxxxxx wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> will do.. Thanks >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> BTW the car does idle correctly.. when first started a >> >> >> >> >> >> >> fast >> >> >> >> >> >> >> idle, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> and >> >> >> >> >> >> >> after about five minutes or when the temp gauge is a >> >> >> >> >> >> >> quarter >> >> >> >> >> >> >> up, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> tap >> >> >> >> >> >> >> on the gas and the idle slows >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Don Dulmage wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > So tommorow when its cold open the hood. remove the >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > air >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > cleaner. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > without >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > touching enything. go inside the car and push the >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > preadl >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > the >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > floor >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > and >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > release it. Now where is the choke? open or shut? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > don >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > From: <62pluckedchicken@xxxxxxxxx> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 9:40 AM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Subject: RE: Convert points to electic >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > It's a 2bbl.. I imagine the original carb.. not >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > much >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > has >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > changed >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > on >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > the >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > car (Stromberg ???) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Don Dulmage wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> YEs definately. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> What carb is on it? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> Don >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> From: <62pluckedchicken@xxxxxxxxx> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 10:42 PM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> Subject: RE: Convert points to electic >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > Today when I was trying to start it, after days >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > being >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > idle, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > actually did put a little gas in the carb, just >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > see >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > if >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > it >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > would >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > fire.. and it did. just wouldn't keep going >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > 'cause >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > there >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > was >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > no >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > gas >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > after what I put in the carb burned up... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > so this is a choke problem? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > Don Dulmage wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> It is highly unlikely that changing the >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> ignition >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> will >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> change >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> the >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> starting. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> Elctronic ignitions has really only one big >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> advantage. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> The >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> points >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> dont >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> wear >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> and the dwelll doesnt change with time so the >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> engine >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> stays >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> in >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> tune (or >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> literly in time)longer , in fact timing wise >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> excluding >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> timing >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> chain >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> wear >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> indefinatley. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> Want to know if the choke is the problem >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> .?squirt >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> a >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> little >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> gas >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> in >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> the >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> carb >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> mouth before you start it after the next long >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> sit. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> if >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> it >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> fires >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> immediatley >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> theh you know for sure thatis the problem. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> I spent a life time repairing chokes or so it >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> seemed. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> In >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> one >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> dealership >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> i >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> felt I did at least one per day. In average it >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> probably >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> was. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> Don >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> <mikelj@xxxxxxx> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 11:42 AM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> Subject: RE: Convert points to electic >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > I initially had a starting problem like that >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > with >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > mine. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > did >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > two >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > things, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > sprayed some Liquid Wrench on the choke >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > linkage >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > stuff, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > and >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > then >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > read >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > my >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > owners manual about starting it! I have had >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > too >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > many >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > Fords >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > guess, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > when >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > they are cold you pump the pedal all the way >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > down >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > twice >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > start. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > That >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > just floods the Ball and Ball 2 bbl., the >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > manual >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > says >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > push >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > the >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > pedal >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > down half way and hold it while cranking. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > That >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > has >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > worked >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > like >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > a >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > charm. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > BTW, the #1382 Petronix unit says 383, 426, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > 440 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > engines >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > with >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > Autolite >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > or >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > Prestolite distributors. Guess you need to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > check >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > what >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > kind >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > distributor >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > the '62 361 2 bbl. has. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > Mike in New Mexico >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> From: 62pluckedchicken@xxxxxxxxx >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> Subject: RE: Convert points to electic >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:30:25 +0000 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> Thanks Mike, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> I don't know if it'll fix the starting >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> problem >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> either.. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> but >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> thought >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> do it anyway >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> weird thing about the starting problem, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> it'll >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> start >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> right >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> up >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> if >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> left >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> overnight.. but a couple days without >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> running, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> it's a >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> b***h >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> start.. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> maybe the automatic choke? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> mikelj@xxxxxxx wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > The one I got for my '64 383 2 bbl. is >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > #1382 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > from >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Petronix. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > It >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > says >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > dual points but works for single too. You >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > might >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > also >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > look >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > on >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Jegs.com, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > that is where I bought mine. They are easy >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > install, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > but I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > can't >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > say >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > whether or not it will fix your morning >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > sickness >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > problem. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Mike in New Mexico >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > From: 62pluckedchicken@xxxxxxxxx >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > Subject: Convert points to electic >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:08:03 +0000 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > I didn't know whether this would help >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > with >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > my >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > cold-starting >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > problem >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > (if >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > not started every day, it is like it sat >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > for >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > months), >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > but >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > I was >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > thinking >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > of converting from points to electronic >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > ignition. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > Pertronix write ups say even an idiot >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > (like >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > me) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > can >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > do >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > this, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > but >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > I'm >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > confused about the kits >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > I have a '62 Newport 361 2bbl, the kits >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > availible >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > from >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > YearOne >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > are >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > 1. 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I.e., send >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > parts/car >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > transactions >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > and >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > negotiations as well as other personal >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > messages >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > only >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > the >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > intended >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > recipient, not to the Clubhouse public >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > address. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > This >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > practice >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > will >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > protect your privacy, reduce the total >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > volume >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > mail >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > and >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > fine >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > tune >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > the >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > content signal to Mopar topic. 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This practice >> >> >> >> > will >> >> >> >> > protect >> >> >> >> > your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune >> >> >> >> > the >> >> >> >> > content >> >> >> >> > signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: >> >> >> >> > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > ---- >> >> >> > Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one >> >> >> > person -- >> >> >> > directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and >> >> >> > negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the >> >> >> > intended >> >> >> > recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice >> >> >> > will >> >> >> > protect >> >> >> > your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the >> >> >> > content >> >> >> > signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! >> >> >> > >> >> >> > '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: >> >> >> > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ---- >> >> > Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one >> >> > person -- >> >> > directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and >> >> > negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended >> >> > recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will >> >> > protect >> >> > your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the >> >> > content >> >> > signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! >> >> > >> >> > '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: >> >> > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> > ---- >> > Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- >> > directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and >> > negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended >> > recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will >> > protect >> > your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content >> > signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! >> > >> > '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: >> > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html. >> > >> > >> > > > ---- > Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- > directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and > negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended > recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect > your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content > signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! > > '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html. > > ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html. ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! 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